We dont do bagels in the UK, its an American thing, whats the point in making a bun with a hole in ! everything will drop out the center! any how in the interests of Anglo/American baking i'm going to have a go. Now Iv'e been working my way through Nancy Silvertons La Brea Bakery book thta I got for Christmas, and very good it is to, now her recipe in fact its (Izy Cohens) he says to form the dough into a rope and wind it around your hand other recipes say stick your thumb through another says stick the end of the rolling pin through and another says some bakers push there elbow through!, Im not going to do that. Anyway im doing the recipe in the La brea book made with a sourdough starter and top them with sesame and poppy seeds and do some plain ones. In fact if I get hooked on them who knows I may have to try all the recipes!!!!!!!!!!