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Mebake

This is a high extraction Batard from hamelman's "Miche point a callier"

I did not sift the wholewheat flour, i just mixed 90% wholewheat with 10% all purpose.

I deviated somewhat from BREAD. i folded in the bowl for 20 strokes for 4 times at 1/2 hour intervals.

Under sunlight

Taste: Well, since i haven't used a high extraction flour, nor artisan T90 or T85 flours, i would not really call this Point a calier, but nevertheless, it tasted like a superior quality 90% wholewheat loaf at 82% hydration. It has a subtle , yet well defined acidic tang, with creamy roasted-nut-like aftertaste. The crumb was soft, moist and firm enough to accomodate all kinds of spreads. I love it, and i will surely stick to the stiff levain with such a high hydration doughs.

 

 

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Hydration Levels

July 26, 2010 - 7:32pm -- Country Girl
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Hi everyone,

I'm a bit of a blonde when it comes to chemistry and working out things like hydration levels.  Probably as simple as anything once you know how.  Anyone got a laymans way of explaining it to me?

Much appreciated.

Country Girl.

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Sourdough starter from ABED

July 26, 2010 - 6:52pm -- intheend

Hi everyone,

 

I've tried 3 times to follow the sourdough starter from ABED and I've never been able to make it past Phase 2. I've tried two times with water, once using wheat flour and another using only bread flour. I also tried using pineapple juice and bread flour. Only once did it foam up during Phase 1 and when I added the Phase 2 ingredients, it just completely died out. I aerated 3 times a day and waited for 5 days for something to happen but it never did. I live in Los Angeles and was wondering if maybe the heat is killing the starter? Any ideas?

 

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40 Minute Hamburger Buns or Rolls

July 26, 2010 - 6:10pm -- BettyR
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A neighbor posted this recipe on our church's e-bulletin board and I copied it. I made it today thinking the whole time…there is no way this is going to work. I used my Kitchen Aid mixer to knead the

rolls for 5 minutes then cut them into 16 pieces instead of 12, shaped…rested the 10 minutes and bakes 10 minutes.

 

Color me in shock and lying on the floor. These are some of the best rolls I’ve ever made. I can’t wait to try them out as hamburger buns.  

 

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hanseata

In this hot summer I find myself less eager to crank up the heat in our oven - thereby turning our kitchen into a sauna - my mind is more on something cool, tangy and refreshing. North German and Danish traditional cuisine has a treat just for this season: Rote Gruetze or Roede Groede (it's Danish name). Literally translated the name means "red gruel". That may not sound very enticing, but it's an old fashioned dish with an old fashioned name and soooo good!!!

My recipe is a modern version, using vanilla pudding powder instead of starch or tapioca, it's fast and easy to prepare. Enjoy it with cream, vanilla sauce or, even better, vanilla ice cream.

http://hanseata.blogspot.com/2010/07/rote-gruetze-red-berry-dessert_26.html

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Electrolux DLX-2000 Magic Mill Assistent Stand mixer vs Viking 7qt mixer

July 26, 2010 - 2:35pm -- erlinda100

Does any one have a suggestion on which mixer I should buy.  I want something more powerful and stable than my Kitchen Aid.   I really like the features and look of the Electrolux, I see its a 600 watt and the viking is 1,000 watt.  Is one better than the other.  I bake bread several 2-4 x a week now.  2-4 loaves at a time.  Any feedback would be appreciated

Thanks, Erlinda

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1st bread

July 26, 2010 - 2:35pm -- Roo

Finally was able to make my first loaf of bread in over 3 months.  Well at lease since we were up at Mary G's taking CanukJim's bread and wood fired oven class.  Made his Potato, chive cheddar bread in the WFO this weekend.  We have been firing it up and making pizza for the last three weeks, people started calling it the pizza oven.  Had to show them that it could make more than just pizza.

So the menu was a goat cheese in tomato basil sauce served with pita's

The potato Chive and cheddar bread

Roasted chicken

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ehanner

After seeing Shiao-Ping's post last week about the Sonoma Bakery near her, I was awakened from a long slumber. My other half has been working on a high protein diet that forbids grains, potatoes and rice. I have been supportive of the diet plan and have tried to not create things in the kitchen that would test her strength. What happened was I also was keeping to the plan and found surprisingly that I did not crave starches. So my self imposed hiatus has come to an end.

The beautiful crumb image from the Sonoma Miche really caught my eye. The red/brown color with the open crumb pattern and gelatinous structure seemed a contradiction of possibilities. Reports of long spoiling times and moist mouth feel were clues I can follow.

I thought I would deviate from the norm in creating this mix in that contrary to most SD mixes that use rye, I did not mix the rye with the levain. I poured boiling water into all of the rye (360g) at 100% hydration. So equal amounts of dark rye and hot water. To my surprise the dark rye absorbed all of the water and I had to work to get it mixed evenly. This I left on the counter for 24 hours as a soaker. The next morning it was a very firm Frisbee. The next time I will use much more water. I had an awful time getting a smooth mixture but eventually it came together. I added all the water for an overall hydration of 80% and mashed with a potato masher. I then added the levain and the 60% bread flour and salt. The dough looked more like chocolate frosting and was smooth and soft. I used 15% of the flour weight for levain and expected a good first rise in 4-6 hours. It had doubled in 6 hours with 2 stretch and folds in between.

I did a final shape on the counter into a boule and rolled the 1160g ball into a large banneton dusted with flour. I'm working on a distinctive slash pattern and thought I would try my first initial "E". No snickering please. A surgeon I am not. I'll have to think of something more simple to execute.

After proofing for 1.5 hours, the dough had risen respectably. I had preheated my oven/stone to 480F for the initial phase of the bake. I steamed normally and removed the block after 12 minutes and lowered the oven to 430F for 20 additional minutes. At this time I checked the internal temp and found it to be 180F. I again lowered the temp to 410F as the crust color was looking good. Another 10 minutes and the temp was 200F so I again lowered to 380F for another 10 minutes. The internal was 210 now so I shut the oven off, propped the door open with a blade and let it dry for another 10 minutes.

After cooling for 1 hour, we cut it open. The crumb was more like I would expect from a rye recipe. Some aeration but not too tight. It is very moist on the inside. After a day of being out and covered by a towel it is still moist in the center. Longer and lower baking next time. The flavor is exceptional and different from any sour rye I have made previous. There is a mild sour taste but another sweet aroma and flavor I am not familiar with. The soaking of the rye and then not souring the rye must be the difference. I dried a piece in the toaster today and it was delicious.

I do want to get a more open crumb than I did here. I think I'll try 30% dark rye next time and the extended ferment. It's a very good loaf if a little heavy. A longer baking profile will help that.

Eric

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Note: I really like the finely milled dark rye I get from Stan at NY Bakers. It gets nice and dark when scalding and has a wonderful aroma. No caraway seeds here. Just the flavor of scalded rye and a hint of sour.

Overall formula:

Dark Rye flour, fine milled, from NY Bakers. 360g
Bread flour  800g
Water  928g
Salt  23g
Levain  174g

Soaker:
360g Dark Rye or whole Rye sifted.
720g Very hot water
Stir in a large bowl. Cover when combined and cover for 24 hours.

Dough:
All of Soaker
208g water at 80F
Combine water and break up the soaker.
When soaker is broken up, add 174g of Levain and combine.
Add flour and salt. Mix until well combined and gluten starts to develop.

Ferment at room temperature until doubled. During ferment time, every hour perform a gentle stretch and fold and return to bowl.
When doubled, gently pour out on floured counter and gently shape into desired shape, tightening as you go. Place in a banneton and proof for approx 1.5 hours, or until 80% expanded.

Preheat oven to 470F. Bake at 470f for 12 minutes with steam. Release steam and lower oven to 430F for another 30-40 minutes. Check for internal temp of 210f. Prop door open with oven off to help dry the bread for 10 minutes.

Allow to cool on wire rack for at least 1 hour. The moisture does spread out after a day of being covered with a towel.
Enjoy!

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