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Knock on "cooking paper" & Praise of Parchment Paper

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Vey

Knock on "cooking paper" & Praise of Parchment Paper

I tried some of this paper from Fox Run Kitchens. Billed as "parchment style, non-sticking lining for cooking, baking and candy making."

Claims to have "maximum temperature 425F without time limit."

Made in China
Fox Run Craftsman, Ivyland, PA 18974

I baked some bread on it at 425 (my oven fluctuates 10F +- so it was as high as 435F) and it stuck. I used a potato peeler to get it off the bottom crust.

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Switched to Beyond Gourmet Unbleached Parchment Paper. Product of Sweden. AV Olssuon Trading Co., Inc, Stamford, CT 06902

I have been able to bake bread up to 460F with no sticking.

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fancypantalons

For the record, I use parchment *way* past the "recommended" temperatures.  As in, the 500 degree range on a stone.  It works flawlessly.  About the only thing "bad that happens is the edges of the paper brown a bit and turn extremely brittle.

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sharonk

Thanks for this parchment paper info. I've just started using it for my gluten free breads, in the loaf pans to cut down on the clean up and reduce the oily feeling on the outside of the bread. It works well. 


 


Sharon


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LeadDog

I have used parchment past 700 degrees when doing Pizza. It is a one time use because the paper turns brittle everywhere except under the pizza. I don't ever remember having anything sticking to parchment. I have never even looked to see if there was a recommended temperature.

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I use it for all of my bread, cookie and candy making. I've tried a couple different types, rolled and stacked, and I prefer the item that KA sells. Yes, it's pricey, but its the splurge I allow myself. I alway purchase the 100 sheet item that comes packaged in a heavy cardboard cylinder.

The paper holds up well for mulitiple batch bakes for cookies, however, when using it for my free form bread baking it begins to burn and crumble at the edges. I've never had a baked item stick to it, but if working with wet dough (shaping)it will stick to your item. That being said, I think parchment is not something viable for bench work, but rather, for baking.

;)

:)

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TroutEhCuss

I don't see the need.  Since this is more of an educational and support website/forum, why don't you list the reason for choosing parchment over non-parchment? 

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fancypantalons

Define "non-parchment"? Obviously parchment provides a nice, non-stick surface, so that's why one would use it over, say, whatever the OP mentioned.

If you mean the various reusable options, like silpat, I prefer parchment because a) I can cut it down to the size I need (for example, I cut long strips to place under my baguettes when proofing with a couche), and b) it's disposable, which means one less thing to clean up (yes, I'm a lazy slob :).

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tananaBrian

In answer to the "why use it?" question, I'd have to say that there are many uses ...and they all have in common the need to bake on a non-stick surface without having to oil (or flour) things up a bunch.  But parchment paper is especially useful for freeform loaves.  If you put a soft loaf on a greased/floured pan and bake it, it tends to 'rise' in all directions and you end up with a loaf that's oval in cross-section.  If you had placed the same loaf on a sheet of parchment paper on an ungreased pan, the paper prevents the dough from 'rising' sideways so much and you end up with a more vertical, round cross-section loaf when it's done... much more attractive, just as edible.  The cat's meow is of course a heavy stone that's been preheated since it works like the parchment paper AND it puts a lot of heat into the loaf to bake it, and you get a better bottom crust as well.  I view parchment paper as a cheap alternative to use until you spring for a good stone.  Once owning a stone, you will likely stop using the parchment paper as often ...but still can for when you don't want cornmeal on the bottom of our loaf!  BTW, I use the cheap grocery store brand ...whatever it is.  Works fine at any temperature with no sticking, but like all parchment papers it gets brown and brittle where not covered by dough.  I've never heard of anyone using it twice, so who cares if it browns a bit and gets thrown away?


 


Brian


 

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TroutEhCuss

When I mean non-parchment, I mean using oil and flour to to prevent sticking, rather than using parchment paper.

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fancypantalons

Flour/oil and a baking stone preheated to 500 degrees don't really mix. :)

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BNLeuck

I used to bake without parchment paper, and often my baked goods had a very dark bottom. I accepted this as the norm, often changing a recipe's bake temp and time I try to work around the problem. For clarification, I was using metal pans (Farberware, which is pretty decent for the price) and sometimes lining it with foil for easy removal/cleanup. No parchment, no silpat.


Then I bought silicone mat (not a silpat, because I was at walmart and they only carried wilson's silicone mats) and though I liked how it kept stuff from burning, it also required adjusting cooking times. You had to cook lots of stuff longer because of it. Not such an annoyance, I'd been doing it for years. But when it started to get air bubbles beneath it when I baked cookies, I gave up. The thing was awesome when it came to kneading bread, or rolling out those very cookies, but it sucked to bake on unless the whole mat was covered.


In desperation, I turned to parchment paper. My cookies were either burnt or deformed, and I was sick of it. I'd heard of parchment paper before, but always poo-pooed it as a waste of money. It's a piece of paper, what could it really do? But I tried it once, loved it, and have never gone back. Oh, I don't line everything with it. I've since gotten Pyrex (which I love) and therefore often don't need anything, and for those things like lasagna which leave the pan a wreck, I still use foil. But for baking bread, cookies, and brownies, I wouldn't ever go without it anymore.


Basic reasons for using: doesn't stick to food or pans, keeps the bottoms/sides from burning, doesn't lose its shape like silicone mats can, can be cut to fit just about anything, and is disposable. I don't have to clean it, and I don't feel bad about throwing it away because as a paper product, it's biodegradable. Not to mention, it's not exactly gonna break the bank. I bought my last roll of Reynolds Parchment Paper at walmart for $3 and change, and it lasts me at least a month. And I use it at least 3 times a week, usually twice that.

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tananaBrian

I've experimented with different pans, both for cookies and for breads.  I find that the crust varies a lot depending on the material.  Here's my observations:



  • Plain aluminum produces the lightest crust

  • Teflon on aluminum produces a light crust but darker than plain aluminum

  • Blued steel (or blackened-by-use steel) produces a crust that is similar in thickness and color to the top (outside of pan) crust.  This is my favorite for bread pans

  • Glass produces a lighter in color, but thicker crust than blued steel.  I don't really care for the crust that I get from glass pans and don't use them.

  • Blued (or blackened) steel cookie sheets produce a darker bottom on cookies that I don't like

  • Aluminum air-bake cookie sheets produce cookies that are similar in darkness top and bottom.  These are the only pans that I will use for cookies anymore.

  • Plain or teflon aluminum cookie sheets darken the bottom of cookies more than their tops, but not as dark as from steel pans.  It's too easy to over-cook the cookies on these though, so I still prefer the air-bake pans


Brian


 

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Just Loafin

I quite often use a large or medium Airbake sheet. No sticking issues - they still look fairly new, they are so easy to clean up (Bon Ami). This was my solution many years ago to bottom-burnt cookies, and it has translated over to freeform loaves of bread with ease.


- Keith

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DrPr

I buy regular ol' parchment paper from the grocery store and never have any problems with sticking. It gets very brown on the areas outside the dough but no scorching, smoke or anything alarming at all. I have used it on a baking stone at 500 degrees, as someone else above also does.  Maybe the cheaper stuff is just fine?

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SusanWozniak

I always hated waiting for cookie sheets to cool between batches and parchment solves that problem.  I once used it to line a regular cake pan to make a cheese cake when I couldn't find my loose bottom pan.