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Submitted by phxdog on June 21, 2008 - 12:05pm Roasting Grain before milling?Anyone try roasting wheat before grinding it? I saw an episode of "Good Eats" on Food Network where Alton Brown (Host) recommended roasting wheat berries in a heavy pan before soaking and using them in cereals. The idea was that the heat changed some of the simple sugars into more complex (flavorful) compounds. I wonder if this would effect grinding, gluten development, rise (not as much sugar for the yeast), etc.? I found a few discussions on roasted flour here, but not roasted whole grains. Phxdog (Scott)
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Roasting before milling
I have no idea how it would come out, but I think you might have to consider the flour very low gluten when using for dough. Hey! Try it and see. I am also curious if toasted grain gums up the mill during grinding. :)
Mini O
I'll bite on that one...
When the weather gets cooler I'll roast up some wheat and grind flour. Might even send the resulting flour out for some lab tests.
It will take a while, though, the last snow of Summer usually doesn't hit until September here in the Rockies...
Sounds good
I look forward to your report.
I wonder, though, if the roasting and the soaking go together somehow. I wouldn't recommend soaking grains you're going to grind.
Rosalie
Tempering
I don't think that I would soak - or even attempt to temper roasted grains prior to milling. I think one would be creating strictly a whole grain flour with these.
I'll post sometime in Fall...
What about soaking BEFORE roasting?
What about soaking BEFORE roasting? You could sprout or not.
Rosalie
re: Soaking before roasting
Uh - wouldn't my roasting process just dry out the soaked grain and then roast it? Or would I actually be braising the grain?
I do know that I want the stuff "dry to the touch" before milling.
Learned that the hard way...
Interesting thought. I'll do the research.
I just thought...
My brain just went off the deep end. I thought it would result in something interesting. Maybe not.
Rosalie
Roasting Grain before milling
This is done for beer, so it should work out great for bread. You might try checking some homebrew sites for ideas on roasting. I would assume that wheat would roast about the same way as malted barley.
Thanks
Thanks for the tip. I will certainly do this.
Of course the danger of going to homebrewing sites is that I'll want to add homebrewing to my already too busy schedule...
Bread and beer...
Grain processing for brewing is about flavour (and increasing the amount of available sugar for conversion to alcohol).
But in bread, the grain (flour) also has an essential structural function - apart from flavour, etc...
Hence I'd go along with those suggesting that a minor addition of 'toasted' grain/flour might be an interesting experiment, but that 100% toasted/roasted grain might only produce some very odd-flavoured biscuits...
BTW, heating is part of the standard malting process. After the grain has had a few days of sprouting, it is heated, firstly to dry it somewhat (at about 50C) after which it is 'cured' at between 70 and 150C, depending on how dark a malt is required.
Nice homebrew (home malting) explanation: http://home.online.no/~knufi/page02e.htm
Roasting grain prior to milling
My current thinking is that I would research some roasting methods, roast and mill a batch, and then send it for lab analysis so that I would understand what it is I had before baking. I think this would avoid much heartache. And I love getting those lab reports. I don't know why, but I do.
I don't intend to sprout the stuff, though.
Thanks for the link. Must. Avoid. New. Hobby.
OK Did a quick search
From the Schnupps Grain Roasting site:
Of course, they provide roasted grains for cattle feed. But the protiens are denatured, which does not sound promising and the flour becomes "crunchy"?
The folks who do this for human consumption seem to think it is best for gravies and soups.
This does not bode well for a bread making application, but I will keep searching