Submitted by phxdog on June 19, 2008 - 2:40pm
June is one of the two months out of the year here in Arizona for harvesting mesquite pods. These are often used in place of hardwood chips to smoke meats, AND to grind into flour. The pods make a rather sweet flour (no gluten, obviously). I've read that a tablespoon or two adds a distinct flavor to breads. I have never tried this flour in a bread recipe (yet). Has anyone every tried mesquite flour? I think I'll try it tonight . . . I'll let you know.
Phxdog (Scott)
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Mesquite Disaster
Yesterday, I gathered up a pile of mesquite pods and brought them home to grnd into flour. What an adventure, I thought.
First rough grind was done in a heavy duty blender to reduce the pods to a size I could feed into my mill. I adjusted the mill for a 1st run & gave the mixture a rough grind; everything was fine up to that point. The second milling began with a strong smell, I ignored it, and pushed on. The final milling adjusted to produce a very fine grind, sounded very odd then slowed and stalled in the middle of the grind.
I adjusted, I turned on & off, I ran some wheat through, I tried just about everything. I soon realized that I had really screwed-up. The next 2 hours were spent removing a newly discovered mesquite epoxy from my mill stones. Once I finished, I was left with a spotless and once again functioning mill (and a resolve to PURCHASE my next batch of exotic flour).
I was so mad at myself, I did not even try to use the 3 tablespoons of mesquite flour that I had tbefore the crash. Oh well, live & learn.
Grinding Mesquite Flour in AZ
Check out this site:
http://www.desertharvesters.org/how-we-run-mesquite-millings/
On November 1, you can have your beans ground for one dollar a gallon in Phoenix:
http://www.desertharvesters.org/how-we-run-mesquite-millings/
3 Sourdough X-File Star Award
phxdog,
You are now the proud recipient of Three Sourdough X-File Stars! Five would have been awarded if you had proceeded to bake bread with those three tablespoons...,
For discovering mesquite epoxy and for having the guts to report a giant screw-up you are awarded Five Sourdough X-File Stars! Interesting things are discovered when you least expect it! Levity aside, I think you found out why you need to dry the newly harvested items to reduce the water content. Sometimes this requires "cracking", "rolling" or "crushing" the items to expose the internal structure otherwise you're apt to discover a new organic form of epoxy...,
Wild-Yeast
mesquite flour
Welcome to the world of mesquite. I've worked with mesquite beans for 30 years. Even if you take if off the desert floor with air temperatures of 110F the pods are not dry enough to mill. YOu have to dry them at about 125 F for 6 hours to take themoisture from 12% to about 6%. I have learned this the hard way. Im a plant scientist who has worked on genetic improvement of mesquites and also am a partner in Casa de Fruta that has mesquite flour in all of the Arizona Whole Foods. IN addition to drying it, we also wash the pods in chlorinated water to get off surface dirt and contamination. Im at if you have any other comments
Peter
The mexican mills that store hundreds of tons of mesquite pods for animal feed have a horrible time grinding it because they dont want to dry it- their grinders also gum up. It is very good that you shared this with others.
Crust browning with mesquite flour
Hello I have a nice PDF file with fotos of various types of loaf and flat bread with mesquite showing the browning effect. I guess you cant upload PDF files but if you send me an email I will send you the file.
Peter
Peter_Felker@hotmail.com
Crazy enough to try again
OK,
Now I'm all excited to try grinding some mesquite flour again. This time, I think I'll start with a bit more research & follow-up on what you all have suggested. Thanks -
Phxdog (Scott)
Peter Felker Thanks Scott I
Peter Felker
Thanks Scott
I have some recipe and fotos I would like to send to you. I dont see how to do this on this site. Please send me an email. Peter_Felker@hotmail.com
Me too - gummed up mess
Hi, phxdog,
I did mesquite for the first time this year too. But I did do a little research before I started. For example, I dried my beans and thought I was all set. So I started milling. HA! I didn't get the beans dry enough and so had the gummy mess to clean up too. I had to soak my burrs for hours and then use a hard bristle toothbrush to get out the gum. I learned, though, and persevered, and HAVE used the flour. It is delicious! I put some in biscuits one night and didn't tell the family. They all complimented on the taste and asked what I did. Nice experience. I will definitely continue with my mesquite milling and using the meal.
BTW, mesquite beans make an awesome jelly. Cover the beans with water, bring to a boil. Simmer for about 3 hours then turn off the heat. Let pot sit several hours or overnight and then strain the juice. The cooking beans smell something like spiced honey and the jelly tastes that way too.
Hugs,
Anj