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Does anyone else use Sapphire unbleached all purpose?

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swtgran

Does anyone else use Sapphire unbleached all purpose?

I have been using Sapphire AP flour for my Artisan in 5 recipes.  I have had really good luck with all my loaves and they seem very easy to handle.  I was wondering if the difference might be a slightly higher protein than most AP and slightly lower than most bread flour?  Anyway, it seems a very good match for the recipes from this book.  Terry

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Monica

I can't answer directly but, my mother used Sapphire flour exclusively and swore it was the best.  She made a lot of bread.  I haven't seen Sapphire in years and wonder if it is a regional product.  I live in SC.  monica

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swtgran

I have never seen it in regular grocery stores around here, either.  I buy mine in bulk at an Amish market.  I really like the bread it makes a lot.

I live in Ohio and we are very near a small Amish community.  I get all of my bread making supplies there, in bulk.  Fortunately, I purchased 120 lbs. of Prairie Gold wheat berries at the end of last summer there.  It has been a real savings in bread cost.  I think my Nutrimill, which I purchased at an Amish hardware store, has now paid for itself.  Terry

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weavershouse

I live in Ohio too and I'm wondering where you purchased the Sapphire flour and the Prairie Gold wheat berries? I'm in Medina County. I sent away for the Prairie Gold and it cost way too much for shipping. Thanks.                                                                                                                                     weavershouse

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swtgran

Weavershouse, I go to Beiler's Penn Dutch Market in Uniontown, 13160 Cleveland Ave. NW.  I bought my first 50 lb. bag of wheat berries at Lehman's hardware when I bought my Nutrimill. 

At the end of last summer I purchased 80 lbs. at Beiler's.  They only sell the white wheat berries by the 40 lb. case, 8-5 lb. bags.  You have to order it, then pick it up when they call.  I ordered it over phone.  They are very trusting and do not make you prepay.  They sell it to you at their cost. They sell smaller bags of the red winter wheat berries in bulk bags on the shelves.  It takes over a week or two if you order in the wrong part of the order cycle

I live close enough to shop there once a week.  I like shopping there for bulk supplies.  If you order enough wheat, there is enough other stuff there to make it and interesting and worthwhile trip. 

You can make a day of it and go on down the road a little ways and go to the large hardware store, shops and to the Hartville Kitchen.  They have a huge Flea market at the Hartville Kitchen.  You would have to check out which days.  I think it is one of the larger ones in Ohio.  In the summer they sell local produce.

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weavershouse

I do know where Uniontown is but I've never heard of Beiler's. Does Beiler's sell organic flour? I'll check it out, thanks so much. I've been to the Hartville Flea Mkt. and to the restaurant. Thanks again, maybe we'll pass in the aisle at Beiler's. Happy baking.                                                   weavershouse

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swtgran

No, I do not think they have organic flour there.  The wheat berries are from Wheat Montana and they are not organic, but they are chemical free.  When I called and talked to them, they said to farm wheat as organic, as mandated to be called organic, was worse than chemical free, because of the risks from the diseases that could be introduced by the organic fertilization.

Beiler's if very close to the corner of 619 and 91.  A BP station sits on the corner and Beiler's is right beside it.  Hope that helps.  Terry

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weavershouse

I'm from Medina County Ohio. Was it Broken Rock Cafe that you bought the flour from and was it the Sapphire flour sold at the local grocery stores? At least it used to be in all the stores, I don't know if I've seen it lately. I'm wondering if it was unbleached and unbromated, do you know?

If it was Broken Rock, I've been there several times and think it's great.

Good to see a local fellow baker here.

weavershouse

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swtgran

Weaverhouse, I have a bag of Sapphire flour in front of me.  It states that it is unbleached enriched flour (malted barley flour, niancin, reduced iron, thiamine, monotitrate, riboflavino.  It does not seem to be bromated.  Terry R 

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JoeV

It has been 8 months since this topic came up, and I have an update for those of you in Ohio who would like to try it. The Giant Eagle stores in NE Ohio have been carrying 5# bags of Montana Sapphire (over $4 per 5# bag) and 25# bags for $14.50. Personally, I go to B&R Bulk Foods in Middlefield, Ohio to buy flour, and I paid $19 for a 50# bag.

B&R Bulk Foods

16099 Nauvoo Road,

440-632-5584,

Mon-Wed 8-5, Fri 8-7, Sat 8-4, closed Thursday and Sunday.

Here is another thread where I show some of the results using this flour.

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Bread Buddy

I live very close to Beiler's market and have been buying unbleached Montana Saphire flour and their high gluten flour for many years.  I like this four a lot.  Those of you who live in Ohio and don't mind traveling a little further south you might visit the grain mill in Baltic, Ohio.  They have whole grains for grinding your own flour as well as many choices of freshly milled flour that they do on premise.  I have purchased some great rye from there.

Another very good source of bulk flour and grains is a popular market in Walnut Creek, Ohio.

 

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swtgran

Beiler's in Uniontown, west of Hartville, sells the variety that does not list anything about being bromated.  They also sell cinnamon chips.  They sell all kinds of chips.

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JoeV

A day late and a dollar short. My SIL lives in Green off of 619 right near Beilers, and I just saw her last weekend for our granddaughter's baptism in Macedonia. I could have had her pick up the chips for me. Oh, well. She's in D.C. right now with her brand new granddaughter, and will be there for several weeks helping her DIL. Uniontown is 1hr 20 minutes each way for me, so it would be cheaper to buy them online and pay the shipping rather than using all that gas.

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Saucie776

I do  , I  LOVE IT!!!  It is all I use  in bread  and pizza  crust..Anything  you  can  bake. this makes it  fabulous...Amazon sells  Sapphire  online too.  Troyers  in  Mt  Vernon Ohio  carries it. 

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Gracehatter

Do I use it as I would regular bread flour?  Are there any tips I need to know?  TIA

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jackbm65

I have been using Sapphire flour for years. I not only use it for bread making but also all of my baking.  I head to Nauvoo Family Market located at 15979 Nauvoo Road, Middlefield, Oh 44602, #440-632- 5584.  have fun ladies.