WOW! Starter #2 is working!!
Thank you to everyone for the advice and support! My second starter has not only started- it is trying hard right now to raise its own little loaf of bread. I followed Sourdolady's recipe for replacing yeast in an existing recipe yesterday morning and just finished mixing the dough a few minutes ago. I guess I'll just watch it to see how long til it doubles and then shape, proof and bake. Will I have bread today? It is very exciting here. Even my preteen son is paying some attention to this. Everyone is learning some science from it.
This starter seems strong so I'm going to experiment with it, I divided it last night instead of disgarding and one portion looks hungry again. If there is 1/2 cup there now and I want to increase, do I just add 1/2 C each water and flour now? Increasing until I get the right amount? I'd like to create a good "sour" flavor, that is a matter of time, right?
I'm trying not to count on my bread before it's baked, but thanks again for getting me this far.
PS I haven't given up on the first sluggish starter, it is still just barely breathing.