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Need help understanding Turkish bread recipes

tyro89's picture
tyro89

Need help understanding Turkish bread recipes

Hey all, new to this forum but a long term reader and bread making enthusiast. I recently received the just-released Turkish Cookbook (by Musa Dagdeviren) as his episode on Chef's Table made me feel like his book would serve as an authentic and proper source of information on Turkish cooking (and in particular, Turkish bread). However, I need help from more experienced bread-makers as I am having a really hard time understanding his recipes. Not because they are difficult but because they are so "wrong" and really are not resulting in what I would consider good bread. Maybe I have been ruined by Forkish, Reinhart and Hamelman and expect too much. However, I've had authentic Turkish bread many times and the kind of recipes in this book results in creations that are nothing like it.

To give you all an idea the following core recipe is often used in the book:

- 250g whole wheat flour

- 50g fresh yeast

- 175g water

- ...etc

So even before going into the method, this is really strange to me. 100% whole wheat, doesn't, in my opinion, result in the tastiest bread and then the yeast quantity is just astronomical at 20% of flour weight. Some recipes do call for 250g of all-purpose instead but still with the crazy yeast quantity. Then the method is usually something like:

15 minutes bulk fermentation

10 minutes proof

Which obviously is doing very little good in terms of developing flavour and other desirable bread characteristics.

Thus, my question is what am I possibly missing here. As someone with fantastic experiences around high quality authentic Turkish bread, I simply cannot understand what has taken such a weird turn in this book by someone who supposedly is a scholar of authentic Turkish cuisine?

gavinc's picture
gavinc

Search this site for several different Turkish loaves of bread.  The one that looks nice is:

http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/42857/anatolia%E2%80%A6%E2%80%A6borek-turkish-pide

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yozzause

Here is another good link  with a far  better yeast quantity, if you go into the  search box with turkish bread there are more items to peruse. you are correct that the yeast is way to much @20%

 

http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/25707/simit-turkish-sesame-bread

 

kind regards Derek

OldLoaf's picture
OldLoaf

from the publishers end.  The original may have been 5.0g which would bring it more in line at about 2% for fresh yeast.  Converted to instant yeast would give you 1.65g and 0.66%.  Either way, it slipped by the proofreader(s).

David R's picture
David R

If he knows what he's doing but his book gives bad results, maybe his publisher ruined his book, or maybe he's a great baker but terrible at writing. There's even a possibility that his name is on a book written by someone else.

Colin2's picture
Colin2

Which Turkish breads are you aiming to make?