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leslieruf

Weekend bake

after last s&f  Recent bakes by Kat and rgreenberg2000 looked so good I had to give this bread a try.  No emmer though and only 1 small loaf.

6:45 am Levain mixed up (a small amount of rye in this)and left at room temperature rising to 25° c

9:15 am Autolyse 

203 g bread flour + 14 g rye + 27 g durum + 27 g wholewheat + 216 g water

13:00 mix final dough - add 54 g levain followed by 100 SLAFs.

Add 4 g salt stretch and fold then 140 SLAFS. 

13:45 pm Tried to do coil folds, very sticky and wet (guess who forgot to hold back some water!) so ended up doing about 12 stretch and folds. Rested a couple of minutes then did my version of laminating.  After 60 & 120 minutes I completed about 10 S & F. Despite the SLAFs, lamination and stretch and folds this dough did not appear very strong.  2 1/4 hours dough had risen about 80% so I shaped, placed in banneton and retarded overnight. Baked at 230°c convection on DO 15 minutes lid on, 15 minutes lid off.  No ear to speak off but crumb is very nice

 

Bread 2 was Maurizio’s  COuntry loaf with long autolyse and  low% levain.

6:45 am levain mixed 7.5 g refreshed starter + 15 g wholewheat + 15 g bread flour + 30 g water @ 85°F and left on bench to do its thing.

09:30 am Autolyse

28 g wholewheat + 251 g bread flour + 223 g water

12:45 pm Add 42 g levain followed by 100 SLAFs. 6 g salt added and another 130 SLAFs completed.  this was followed at 30 minute intervals by 3 x 6 s&f. Dough left until about 80% increased,

18:25 pm preshape and rest for 30 minutes, shape and retard over night. 

Baked at same time as first loaf in a second DO.

this was very similar to Kat’s loaf and I found both quite wet, slack doughs. a bit disappointed with appearance altho actual was darker than it looks here.

Crumb

ok, thats alright after all!

I ended up with some refreshed starter left over - can’t throw that away - how much is left? 70 g? ok 123 coming up. Inspiration - recent bakes using whatever is around - so  what flour is around? ok lots of bits

12:00 noon autolyse

143 g bread flour + 36 g spelt + 6 g kamut + 8 g durum + 17 g rye + 210 g water

13:15 pm Mix final dough.  Add 70 g levain + 6 g yoghurt (had a bit of that too) and an additional 8 g water.  after 100 SLAFs added 3.8 g salt thenc ompleted the mix with another 100 SLAFs.   Much nicer dough than the other two!

3 sets of coil folds every 30 minutes. After an hour the dough had risen about 75% so it was preshaped at 4:35 pm and shaped into a. oule at 5 pm.  Added some oat bran to teatowell and retarded in soup bowl overnight in fridge. Baked in DO.

it seemed to deflate a bit when scored, even though it looked good before. Crumb shot

Happy baking all

Leslie

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not.a.crumb.left's picture
not.a.crumb.left

Before I confuse myself need to go loaf by loaf...

Semola/rye/WW/ white loaf

I guess as the bulk went to 80% that this resulted in a very proofy dough which shows in the beautiful crumb but probably the flour did not have enough umpf to produce a big ear. I am experimenting with degree of bulk at the moment  and I think Trevor said particularly with wetter doughs the 30% rise is the safest (as we all tend to know anyway) but I am intrigued to compare that to let's say 70 -75% type of doughs...

I re-visited Tartine book on this and Chad wrote:

"If you let the bulk fermentation go too long, the final rise will be sluggish as the food that fuels the fermentation has been exhausted. The glutens in the dough also begin degrading after a certain point due to increasing acidity, which results in a tighter, more uniform crumb.

The volume of the final dough will be smaller and the flavour more acidic. When the dough is baked the crust will color faster due to residual sugars of the dough that caramelize too quickly and the scores on the surface will not open well to form the decorative crust. So, for wet doughs (not sure how that relates to exact percentage as all relative on flours too) the 30% ish is probably a safe bet as we all know if you aim for the Tartine style irregular open crumb... However, looking at Trevor's IG post https://www.instagram.com/p/Bl39foWnqn7/?hl=en&taken-by=trevorjaywilson you can use pushing bulk to create structure too for wetter doughs and go for 50% and then get an open more regular type of crumb... In the middle of replicating his post and will let you know...and my 2 pennies of thought here.. AGAIN...with Maurzio's loaf I think you lost the ear because of the 80% rise in bulk...I baked many loaves like that...but always love the crumb from them!!! Did you find that that the final loaf rose less and you got a nice ear because of that?  Oh well, what do I know...and we are so precious and our own worst critics.... lovely bakes and I bet they all taste fabulous........Kat  
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leslieruf

yes, I do think the BF was too long and in future will cut it back to 50-60% maybe.  The other thing Is that for the last 6 months or so I have been adding 1-2% guten flour, this time I forgot and when I checked my container it only had a little so only added about 1 gram in this & Maurizios bake.  I could tell as the SLAFs did not give me as much strength as usual and the dough was definitely a bit overly hydrated!!  still It came out better than I thought.  

 thanks Kat

Leslie

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rgreenberg2000

....look fantastic, Leslie!  Your leftover starter sure resulted in a lovely 1-2-3 loaf, glad you put it to good use!

Rich

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leslieruf

I liked the formula and will try again watching my hydration more.  the 123 was fun (my favourite recipe actually) as you can just do anything you like with it!  Boules are NOT my strong point though!

bake happy

Leslie

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DesigningWoman

I'll admit that I'm most partial to the last one, made up of bits and pieces -- it shows how beautiful bread can be made just using what's around.

Bravo and enjoy them!

Carole 

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leslieruf

how it would turn out! very happy..  Need to try things like cheese too..

thanks Carole

Leslie

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dabrownman

don't come out perfect for us bread snobs 99 time out of 100 the bread tastes great and others hardly ever see our disappointments:-)  All of these came out nice with the 123 not as open probably due to the lower hydration so it would make great bruschetta and the rest perfect for sandwiches.  Well done and happy baking Leslie

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leslieruf

such a mix of little bits I wasn’t sure how it would turn out.  thanks dabrownman

Leslie

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Isand66

The crumb looks perfect on all of these and I'm sure they tasted great.

Happy Baking.

Ian

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leslieruf

you have just posted another lovely bake too. 

Leslie

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Elsie_iu

but the country loaf looks best to me. They all look so soft and fragile (in a nice way) that I wonder if you can hold a slice on one side without having the other side bending down :)

I am still stunned by how good your bread turned out even after seeing so much of them!

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leslieruf

thank you for your kind words - I am not as adventurous as you are but so enjoy the whole process. 

look forward to your next bakes

Leslie