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Sourdough bagel help

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Thalia0503

Sourdough bagel help

hello Guys, I am on a quest for the perfect sourdough bagel recipe, any help I could help would be great!!! 

 

Any any advice or recipes to give me?

 

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Lechem (not verified)

But just wanted to say that those look perfect to me. 

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eddieruko

my pursuit of making bagels was the gateway drug into the bread world. can't say that i have a "perfect recipe"... seems like i continue to play with the recipe and techniques each time i make them. that's part of what i like about baking. oh, and the smells. 

few things i can share from my process... i stopped making bagels for a bit after i realized how hard i was being on my KA mixer. i've since used my food processor with the metal blade and have been really happy. i have been using a yukone (technique used by Japanese bakers) my bagels, and malt powder. also, many of the recipes i've come across call for a cold proof after shaping them... for my schedule (and space in my fridge), it often works better if i do i bulk cold proof, shape, bench proof, boil, and bake.

not sure if any of that helps. but yeah, i'd definitely eat those bagels!

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NeilM

Very Nice Looking :)

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MJ Sourdough

Those bagels look pretty good to me! Have you tried not using a mixer? What about boiling in water with a bit of malt barley syrup? Also maybe add a bit of malt barley syrup to the dough? 

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Thalia0503

thanks for your help! I mix the dough for 6 min in kitchen aid, I have not tried it without mixer any recommendation of mixing by hand? Also what would be the difference in texture? 

Thalia0503's picture
Thalia0503

thanks for your help! I mix the dough for 6 min in kitchen aid, I have not tried it without mixer any recommendation of mixing by hand? Also what would be the difference in texture? 

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bread_boy123

Dear Thalia 

I can say that these are quite possible the most beautiful bagels I have seen in my whole life. Whenever me and my mother try to make bagels that look like these we just end up with a wet mess of dough that has no texture to it and I can say are the WORST THINGS that I have ever inserted into my mouth. If you would be so kind could you give me the bagel recipe so that I could create these marvels of modern day food then i would not think twice about paying you over the internet (If that is possible).

 Lots of love

your beloved 

Bread Boy123

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Andy Baker

I was taught how to make sourdough bagels on a sourdough baking course. It uses the stretch and fold technique, no mixer or Kitchen Aid required. Boiled for a minute prior to baking in water with 2/3 teaspoon bicarbonate of soda (i have also experimented with adding a tablespoon of honey to get that bagel "sheen").

Timings are:

Sourdough leaven made 6-24 hours before the dough and left in the fridge until ready to use.

make dough and autolyse for 20 mins.

add salt and rest for 30 mins.

Fold 1 and leave for 30 mins.

Fold 2 and leave for 30 mins.

Fold 3 and leave for 30 mins.

Cut and shape and leave to proof for 20 mins.

Poach for 1 minute, turning after 30 seconds.

Bake for 10 mins with steam and 10 mins without at 225 C.

Hope that helps.

 

Andy.