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Sad NJ transplant looking for beloved Portuguese rolls recipe - however, not the Portuguese sweet bread previously discussed

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maxamilliankolbe

Sad NJ transplant looking for beloved Portuguese rolls recipe - however, not the Portuguese sweet bread previously discussed

I am a NJ transplant in Omaha, Nebraska and am dying to make Portuguese rolls the way I could get them while living in NJ. They are not the Portuguese sweet bread that I have read much about elsewhere on the site, but rather are oval shaped rolls that have been folded and left to rise to create a crease down the middle. They are plain old white and the crust is a little chewy. They typically do not have a very hard crust, which makes them perfect for sandwiches because you don't kill your gums or your teeth trying to bite into them. They are not dense, but are light, soft, and airy on the inside. The ones I am familiar with are about the size of your hand from your wrist to your second set of knuckles. (If I attempted a measurement, I'm sure I'd be inaccurate...) The color is a beautiful light golden. I can seem them now...

I have made one recipe for Portuguese rolls called Paozinho (http://www.answers.com/topic/p-ozinho), but they weren't quite what I remembered. It was a rather straight dough, pretty simple, so that could be the problem, but then again I'm not sure it is the recipe I'm looking for. It did have the characteristic crease down the middle, though.

Anyone else out there from NJ or know what I'm looking for?? Thanks in advance!!

staff of life's picture
staff of life

I'm not from NJ, I've never heard of the rolls you're talking about, but I'm familiar with Maximillian Kolbe.  He was an amazing man.  Are you Catholic?

SOL

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maxamilliankolbe

I sure am - and he sure was! I had a chance to visit his cell in Auschwitz while in Poland a few years ago. That was amazing!

It's too bad you have never tried these rolls before. They are just wonderful! In my humble opinion, they are the best rolls for a sandwich. Not at all like hamburger buns, which don't do it for me when it comes to sandwiches. They are more like Kaiser rolls in texture, but have a wonderful chewiness about them. Mmmm....

From what part of the country do you hail?

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Paddyscake

Fall River, Mass was the home of Emeril Lagasse and a huge Portuguese community. I know what you are talking about. I am originally from Connecticut and have eaten my share of Portuguese rolls. I think that the shaping of the roll is the signature difference. It is very much like a Kaiser roll in texture, maybe a bit softer. It is shaped like a torpedo, flattened in the middle with kinda twisted ends. I'm sure with a little experimentation with a Kaiser roll recipe, you could whip up some Portuguese rolls.

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maxamilliankolbe

That is a very good point - though I can be pretty creative sometimes, I think I default to the --everything fits in its own neat little box -- mentality.  Perhaps I will try a Kaiser roll recipe and modify it for Portuguese rolls.

 

So, anyone out there from Omaha that can point me to some good bakeries??  Boy do I miss NJ bread.  Texeiras bakery from Newark is where we used to get our Portuguese Rolls from.

 

I think  I'm obsessed... 

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Trishinomaha

I've lived here for 35+ years - I think you'll find this is a great city to live in. For Breads try The Whole Foods Market - they do a pretty good job on their rustic type breads and pastries. The Old Market area also has a good bakery or two. For bagels, the Bagel Bin at 119th and Pacific - they've been there forever and they make my favorite bagels. You might also try the Lithawanian Bakery - I know they're famous for their pastries but they may also have bread.

Happy New Year!

Trish

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maxamilliankolbe

Thanks so much, Trish.  I have made it over to Whole foods and purchased their ciabatta.  I enjoyed it very much, however I wouldn't call it my favorite "sandwich" ciabatta because it is a little too crusty for that.  However, it was very good.  My sister introduced me to the Bagel Bin.  They sell Challah on Thursday and Friday - I wonder how that tastes...  The Lithuanian bakery I have also been to and tried a sample of their torte - oh my heavens, that is good!  I haven't been down to the Old Market much, except during the farmers' market, but I will have to make it a point to take a trip soon.

 

Again, thanks so much for the help - Omaha really seems like a nice place. 

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staff of life

Hi MK--

That's so neat that you got to visit his cell!  When I read my children stories of the saints, his is one of my favorite.  I always choke up near the end.  I come from Va, where, aside from the Mennonites', there seem to be no baking traditions (the Mennonites' traditions not to be pooh-poohed; my extended family is Mennonite, it's just not my kind of baking) so alas, we have nothing as wonderful as the rolls you describe.

SOL

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maxamilliankolbe

Well, once I find time to make some rolls, I'll post a picture and a recipe.  The recipe will be one that requests adjustments from others on the site more experienced than I, since I really don't know how to bake bread, I just pretend to.  I'm going to attempt to add a preferment of some sort to see if that helps with the texture.  I'm not sure how I'll do that, but I think I read about it previously on the site.

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salvy

I never gave this any thought until reading your post, but the flavor of the recipe I've been making recently reminds me very much of those NJ Portuguese rolls. I use King Arthur's bread flour.

It's a wonderful recipe, ether way, so I'd recommend you try it. 

http://tinyurl.com/37wsgn

If you skip the water mist, the crust will likely be a bit softer. You might also try adding a few Tbsp. of olive oil or soft butter to the mix to soften the crust.

Good luck. 

-Sal (Jersey Shore)

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maxamilliankolbe

Great!  Thank you so much.  I'll try them and let you know what I think.  Where on the Jersey Shore do you live?  I used to live in Freehold for a while and before that Lyndhurst (15 miles north of Newark).

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salvy

We're near Ocean City, just south of AC/Margate/Longport. Good luck.

 -Sal 

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bakermomof4

I know this is really late, but I just saw your post and I am sure what you are looking for are -


Papo Secos - Portuguese Crusty Bread Rolls

 I think what you might be talking about are the Papo Secos they are a Portuguese roll that are very popular in the Portuguese bakeries (at least in California they are), also when we spent a summer in Terceira, Azores, Portugal we had them delivered fresh at our door every morning!


You can try these links -


http://fullbellies.blogspot.com/2007/04/portuguese-bread-rolls-papo-secos.html


http://www.recipezaar.com/Crusty-Buns-60191


I also have Ana Patuleia Ortins book - Portuguese Homestyle Cooking that has the recipe -


http://www.portuguesecooking.com/home

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helpingout

@ MAX...I hope u havent givin up!!! I have the answer to OUR PRAYERS! I'm a transplant from CT. (CT-VA-MD/DC-Philly-S. Jerz) and let me tell u...I CANT WAIT TO GET BACK TO THE NY TRISTATE!!! I never new how good we had it until I left. The rest of the country just doest know how food deprived they are. I had a 10min argument w/the ShopRite Bakery Mngr down here n Glouster Twnshp. He tried to tell me Portuguese Rolls r suppose to b hard...NOOOT!!! I said look buddy, I'm from New England and Portuguese culture is ONLY there and n the NYTrisate (which I didnt know), dont tell ME how their food is suppose to be. Max, Ive been deprived of sooo many foods since I've left its depressing. No fried dough/elephant ears, no REAL pizza...its just horrific. Well I hope u get this and enjoy buddy!! Btw the rolls w/the tails r called Papo Secos. Dont let them trick u w/the hard plain ones. To buy http://www.portuguesebakery.com/ and if u want to make them urself http://fullbellies.blogspot.com/2007/04/portuguese-bread-rolls-papo-secos.html

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tomee638

Hey!  I'm in Omaha too!  Cool to see a couple other people from my city here.


I would also recommend Whole Foods for good artisan breads.  Unfortunately, I live in West Omaha so I rarely visit any other bakeries.  I've heard some of the butchers also specialize in breads so you could give that a try but I've never taken the time to find a butcher and actually check it out.  Good luck!  Let me know if you do find any cause I'd definately be interested!


Josh

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ruigaspar

Hi Max:


If you're still in Omaha you can try Whole Foods or Nash Finch supermarkets.


I'm with Vieira's Bakery in Newark NJ and we sell frozen par-baked Portuguese rolls/breads to both of these chains.  I don't know which stores that they offered them in, but you can check with your local stores.  We do sell alot of bread product to both.


Good luck.


Rui

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bluebird

at the Portuguese bakershop...we used to buy long yummy sweet stuff with confectioners sugar on the top. The pieces were stuck together and we pulled them apart to eat them. I have been trying to find that. They were feathery, but it was NOT a sweet bread. Help, please.


BTW---thanks for the recipe for rolls