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Jon OBrien

How do I...

...send another user a file I've uploaded to my profile?

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AbeNW11 (not verified)

What kind of file?

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Jon OBrien

In fact, a white balanced version of your spelt and rye bread photo (it was yours, wasn't it?). I wanted to send it let you have a copy.

The original isn't far out but was evidently taken under artificial light as it has a slight red cast. I'm ultra sensitive to that sort of thing.

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dobie

Jon

Perhaps some colour printing in your background?

dobie

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Jon OBrien

Photography and fine-art ink-jet printing. Current, rather than in my background, though.

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dobie

Jon

Very interesting. Me too.

Large format Giclee (either reproduction or original digital), using mostly Iris 3047's and a few Mumaki printers along the way, mostly on Arches and Somerset papers and on various canvases (I hope I spelled everything right, it's been 10 years).

And of course, the almost obligatory photo background earlier on.

dobie

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Jon OBrien

...the label invented by someone who knew nothing of French slang!

Iris and Mimaki make some pretty hardcore machines. I once lusted after a Mimaki cutting plotter to make images with depth using stacked, shaped mounting board. Well outside my price range. Never seen an Iris, except in a documentary about Nash Editions. I had access to a really nice large format, eight colour Roland, built around Epson hardware, for a while but mostly it's been A3+ prints of my own images. I don't think Roland even does a pigment ink printer now.

I settled on Hahnemühle Photo Rag and Bockingford ink-jet watercolour papers from St. Cuthbert's Mill, rather than its Somerset, for my images, though I did do a few prints on some samples of an Arches rag paper I was given. It was a long time ago but I seem to recall that I preferred the Hahnemühle white.

The photography is very much current but I don't do as much printing now as I did because the gallery I sold through closed and I couldn't face the task of finding another. These days I just sell greetings cards and get them done professionally. I'm still sitting in an office with white walls and 5400K lamps, though.

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dobie

Yes Jon

Giclee in the face, eh?

Without Graham Nash and his staff's input, the whole giclee market would have been years behind, waiting for someone else to push it forward. They were very important at the time.

The Iris 3047 was a dedicated 'dye' ink machine and quite finicky to boot. Mimakes were not quite as much so, but still quite goosey.

Our Mimakes ran 'pigment' ink (not sure if they were capable of 'dye' ink or not). The roll feed and auto cut of the Mimake were God sent compared to the single sheet, hand taped Iris feed. Mimake was also much quicker to the print. It too, was built largely around Epson hardware.

The Mimakes were capable of printing flat board (not that we ever did it), but I like your idea of 'images with depth using stacked, shaped mounting board'. Very interesting.

The Bockingford papers I am not familiar with, but the Hahnemühle Photo Rag was just coming on when I sold the business and was quite good as I recall.

I think you are much better off having someone else print for you (particularly if they will work with you to your standards) It's a much better course than owning, operating and maintaining any of these printers. You would need to have the heart and the clients to sustain them and for me, once the Chinese came in and undercut the market, I had neither. So, I left.

The only accounts remaining were so cut-throat and unscrupulous that I could no longer stand the fleas (you know, as when you lie with dogs). My apologies to my canine friends for that statement.

I have no idea where the technology is these days or who's doing what, and thankfully, I could care less. I'm done with that (rather large) phase of my life.

Far be it from me to tell you what to do with your life, but if I were in a position where I was still producing images and indeed had some market at all, I would tell myself to nut up and find another gallery. It only takes one, as you know. So, push on, if you've got it in you.

Anyway, good to share this all with you. It's a small world.

dobie

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Jon OBrien

apart from CSN.

The Bockingford is St Cuthbert's Mill's 'other' paper. Very nice.

"I would tell myself to nut up and find another gallery"

I'd love to but it took a long time to find that one. The trouble is that I'm not content to leave my photographs alone once they're on my computer. Most of the time I play with the pixels until I have something which pleases me more than the original. To most photographers what I do isn't photography, so none of the photographic galleries are interested. Owners of art galleries like my images until I tell them how they're done, then they're not interested all of a sudden, often annoyed and sometimes telling me that I'm trying to 'cheat' people, even though I've been quite open about the 'medium'. Meanwhile, people like my images and I sell the odd one here and there to people who see them and ask if they can have prints. But not as many as when they were in the gallery.

I don't want to break Floyd's rules, as they have nothing to do with bread, so I won't post a link to images here but I'll send you one so that you can see what I mean.

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dobie

Jon

As I understand it, Graham Nash was an integral innovator regarding the 'sprouted grain' flour movement. ;-)

I also think that his voice is probably the sweetest and most pure that R&R ever produced (Lady of the Island, for example). All the while, sprouting rye and such.

I must say, I did not realize the particulars of your experience regarding gallery owners. I've yet to meet one who could bake a damn. If there is any cheating going on, it is by the likes of them and not you, who are representing yourself honestly.

I think you have the right to bake any bread you like, in any manner that you like, no matter how you may rearrange the pixels. Even tho it might only be one in a hundred, I'll bet you will find one who appreciates your re-pixelated recipes.

Baking, like Art, is a fickle bitch. Again, apologies to my whole grain eating canine friends.

My general asking price for a repixelated bread form of reality was the equivalent of one days pay, whatever that might be. Or I would accept barter. I was more pleased that anyone liked my repixelated bread enough to pay anything for it rather than whatever the actual price might be. But I wasn't counting on making a living at it, just baking it.

Please PM me the link.

dobie

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Jon OBrien

Well, well. Are there no end to the man's talents? Sprouted grain flour too. Who'd a thot it!

To be fair, if reluctantly, no one's stopping me baking anything. They're just declining to stock it, which is their prerogative. It would be nice if they weren't so snobbish about it, though.

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dobie

Jon

Yeah, Nash is one hell of a baker.

But snobs will be snobs. Or as Forrest Gump said, 'Stupid is as Stupid does'.

Please do PM me a link, I'd love to see.

dobie

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Scurvy

Jon, easiest way I know is to upload it to "the cloud" (I use both google and Microsoft's) then create a shareable link and let them download it.

https://goo.gl/photos/9g78JJHX7vcpyr6z9

 

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Jon OBrien

Wouldn't trust it as far as I could see it. ;-)

I have a server, so I could have put it there and used a link, but I assumed that files uploaded to a profile would be pass/shareable with other users. They don't appear to be. It's gone by email now.

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dabrownman

photo attached just like a post but the tool bar with the tree icon has now been removed for messages for some reason..  

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Jon OBrien

That's what I'd assumed I'd be able to do.

Thanks for the info.