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Flat bread- not by design

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PETER PEARCE

Flat bread- not by design

Hi all.

Before I ask my next question, I would like to say what a great site this is. I have read so much stuff that my mind is a bit agog with information. I have learnt things associated with bread that I have never heard before its really great and cant wait to get going on it.

My question is about why my bread has fallen flat during the second prove. My recipe has been : 500g of Strong flour 10 g of salt 7g of fast acting yeast a little olive oil and about 300Ml of water. The first prove rises nicely and then I knock it back and shape it into a Bloomer, cob or cottage loaf and its while it is doing that prove in a free form (not in a tin) shape that the bread flattens out. It does not always happen and some times, although not often, it comes out nice. Could it be the proving time? I generally allow about 2 hours for both proves.

Thanking you in advance

Peter 

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pmccool

2 hours for both the bulk and the final ferments will result in overproofing.  Since the yeast is very sensitive to temperature and totally ignorant of time, you will need a different metric for determining the dough's readiness. 

For the bulk ferment, the easiest step is to put the dough in a container with straight sides.  The container should allow you to see the dough through the walls.  If it has markings on it to denote volume, that's good.  If it doesn't, put a piece of tape even with the top of the dough and another twice that high up the side of the container.  When it is even with the top of the second piece of tape, the dough is doubled, no matter what the clock says.  You may be surprised at how small it looks, since we tend to underestimate dough expansion, especially in bowls.

For the final ferment after shaping, free-form loaves can't be put into a container.  The way around that challenge is to watch the dough carefully.  When it looks to be 50% expanded, gently push your index finger into the dough to the depth of your fingernail and pull it back out.  Now watch the depression you have made.  if it springs back completely within a couple of seconds, it needs to ferment further; you can check it again later.  If it springs back slowly without quite filling the dimple, it is ready to bake right now.  If it does not spring back at all or, worse, the loaf collapses with a sigh, it is overproofed.  At that point, you can gently knead it a few strokes, reshape, and then bake when ready.  The crumb texture and crust won't be quite so nice as they would have been if the loaf had been baked at the optimum time but it will still be serviceable.

Best of luck with your future bakes.

Paul

 

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PETER PEARCE

Thanks Paul. I will give your suggestions a try.

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PETER PEARCE

Paul, I tried your suggestions and  the result was a much improved shape

Thanks again

Peter

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pmccool

Isn't it fun to have a loaf turn out just the way we pictured it?

Paul