The Fresh Loaf

A Community of Amateur Bakers and Artisan Bread Enthusiasts.

Starter and dough proportions

Dú's picture

Starter and dough proportions

Hello,

This week I had a day of orientations here at my work, with a baker from our flour supplier, and she advised me on some issues that I came about. When we tryed to bake with my starter, she pointed out that the starter should be accounted as water (even being a stiff starter).  I started it with 200g flour, 100g beer, and kept feeding it as follows, until today:

130g starter
65g flour
30g water or beer

I just wanted to know if I should follow her advice and consider the starter as water...

Thanks

 

golgi70's picture
golgi70

You should consider your starter what it is made up of.  In your case your starter is 45% hydration which is quite low even for a stiff starter.  You could probably adjust your ratio to 50% which will make the math easier.  That is to say 1 part water to 2 parts flour.  You must need to feed your starter every 3-4 hours with that much starter to flour ratio.

 None the less.  If you have 250g of your 45% hydration starter going into a dough you Divide the 250 by 100% (flour) + 45% (h20) or 145%  and the result will be the total flour in the starter.  The remainder will be liquid.  

250/145%=250/1.45 =172.4 (flour)

250-172.4= 77.6 (liquid) 

If your starter was 80% hydration we would 

250/180% = 250/1.8 = 139 (flour)

250-139 = 111 (h20)

If it was a liquid levain @ 125% hydration you would

250/225% = 250/2.25 =  111 (flour)

250-111= 139 (liquid)

 

Josh

dabrownman's picture
dabrownman

To get the hydration you want in a dough you have to account for the water if your starter is very stiff like yours or very wet like others.  If you are making a 70% hydration dough and your starter is also 70% hydration, you can just ignore it completely to get the hydration right in the final mix.