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Stretch & Fold when producing for volume

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CJRoman

Stretch & Fold when producing for volume

I haven't decided if I'm going to add my pretzels to my farmer's market offering...one of my concerns being taking my home kitchen recipe and scaling it up to volume.

I can knead dough that thick for 6 minutes...but not huge blobs of it!

I talked to a Philadelphia pretzel baker who said he uses the stretch and fold technique. Mind you, pretzel dough is not an easy STRETCH! But I'm curious to know how you can develop a stretch and fold schedule for this kind of dough?

Do different types of doughs and hydrations require different rest periods, number of stretches, etc?

I know from kneading when my pretzel dough is "ready" but how do you know with "stretch and fold?" Will the feel be the same with both techniques?

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MisterTT

to Eric's famous post (though it isn't pretzels, but the dough is similar enough):

http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/25154/hand-made-bagelsreally

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adri

Even with a hydration at about 50% and low temperature of the dough, Strech and Fold is possible. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgluEkfAp5w).

I read somewhere, but never tried*, that at cooler temperatures, the dough needs more time to hydrate and relax, therefore the intervals of the s&fs should be longer.

I think you'll have to experiment anyways (with less dough) as you certainly will have to adjust the amount of added yeast.

 

Adrian

 

*white buns here have a dough temperature at about 25°C; Brezeln can have one as low as 20°C. Bakers add ice water while mixing.

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CJRoman

Checking these out now!

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CJRoman

I read Eric's thread and watched the video....great stuff!

Is there any way to estimate how long the S&F intervals should be? Eric's suggests 3-20min. cycles, while I've seen others opt for 3-60min. cycles.

Any thoughts on that?

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MisterTT

too early, with such a dry dough, you won't be able to do it. Experiment and see what works for you. I do 3, about 30 minute intervals, but am not too exact about it.