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Loveofbread

Whole wheat bread in a bread machine

Dear TFL friends,

I'm new to this site and love the way the queries have been answered, the lovely pictures...and the recipes.  Hoping to get some solutions for my bread making problems here.

I have been baking using my convection-microwave-grill oven for many years now.  I just acquired a new bread machine - Gillman model.  In my endeavour to bake whole wheat and/or whole grain breads at home with no additives, I have been trying out different recipes but none came out to my satisfaction.  I have been using the bread maker's recipes as they seem simple without too many additives and ingredients.  But does not seem to work for me.  Right now, it is a bit cold here where I live, around 12-14 degrees C. Wondering if the weather affects the baking!

The bread machine specifies use of liquid ingredients first, then the flour and yeast in the very last step.  The cycles for basic white loaf are around 3 hours inclusive kneading, rise and  baking.  The whole wheat  cycle is around 3.5 hours. My breads turn out very dense and soggy with no rise even when I use wheat flour (chakki atta) with white bread flour in 0.5 to 1.5 ratio respectively.

When I tried baking completely using white bread flour and dry milk powder and SAF dry yeast, the dough rose very well but collapsed when baking started.

The recipe with whole wheat and white bread flour is as follows:

1.5 cups of bread flour

0.5 cup of whole wheat flour

1/8 cup of butter

1 tsp sugar

1 tsp salt

270 ml water

1 tsp dry yeast

I tried using Fleishmann's rapid rise yeast first with bad results. 

It would be great if some one gave me a solution to this.

Could I also substitute chakki atta (100% wheat) from Pillsbury for wheat whole meal flour listed in the breadmaker recipe?  The recipe does not specify whole wheat bread flour.

I would like to bake 100% whole wheat bread using atta flour which is easily available here.  I do not want to use any white bread flour if I can manage without it.  I would also like to bake using rye flour.  Please suggest any recipes suitable for bread machines with simple ingredients.  I'm not very keen on using molasses, or vital wheat gluten.  Any healthy simple substitutes for such additives?

Thanks.

 Loveofbread

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dabrownman's picture
dabrownman

bread in her bread machine, at least part way, and you can find it here

http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/32529/girl-and-her-bread-machine-part-deux

Loveofbread's picture
Loveofbread

Thanks for your response, dabrownman!  Will try this out over this weekend.  any substitutes suggested for molasses?

thanks

dabrownman's picture
dabrownman

or possibly a little brown sugar might work

108 breads's picture
108 breads

I make the dough in the bread machine and bake it in the oven. Always comes out well. This was my starting point for learning to bake breads without machine or commercial yeast. My children liked this bread so much that they gave up regular sandwich bread for this one.

The recipe can be found at http://108breads.blogspot.com/2012/11/bread-negative-one.html.

Loveofbread's picture
Loveofbread

Thanks for your response, 108 breads!  Have a question here...can atta be used as whole wheat flour for bread in this recipe.  The packaging says 100%chakki atta or stoneground whole wheat flour in literal translation.  I bought a large quantity of this, hoping to use it:(

108 breads's picture
108 breads

I had never heard of atta, but according to the atta wikipedia entry (always my first source) atta is more akin to durum wheat and does not rise well. My advice is go ahead and see what happens. In the worst case, you will have a nice tasting, but dense, bread. Maybe add some extra yeast. I'm totally guessing on that.

Have fun baking!