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Bosch Universal Plus

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kneader65

Bosch Universal Plus

I am having issues with my new Bosch Universal Plus Mixer while handling high hydration dough(typically 70%).The dough tends to wrap on the vertical drive shaft in the centre and does not get kneaded well.I am using large batches of dough around 2kg mark.I have tried various speeds with and without the dough divider attachment and it does not seem to help.I am adding flour in first and adding water in small quantity once the machine starts(adding 100% of water within one minute).I have allowed for 20 minutes of autolysis period before starting the kneading.Are there any tricks to prevent the dough from sticking onto the shaft?

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dwcoleman

Common issue, one of the reasons I don't like my Bosch.

A possible fix is to use the metal drive with beater paddles.  I successfully made jasons coccodrillo  bread using the paddles.

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kneader65

Please could you explain or provide a link as to what the metal drive is?

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kneader65

Also please could you let me know the quantity of dough used and the hydration level?

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dwcoleman

Recipe is posted on TFL.  The hydration level is 95%, 500g flour to 475g water.

Check the website below for the paddles/metal drive.  The strong metal drive is required to use the paddles in the Bosch Universal, the plastic one would break.

http://healthykitchens.com/aos_online_store.html?details=4918&pcount=4918&ca_id=1176

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kneader65

Thanks for your response.At 95% it is more like batter so they may be ok.Do you think the cookie paddles are strong enough for a dough around 70% hydration?

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caraway

holding off on adding the whole amount of water till the very end?  Mix it at lower hydration, autolyse and mix again only adding in the last of the water slowly at the very end. 

Agree climbing the center pole is big problem with the Bosch but it's a great workhorse.  Think learning to manage it is well worth the effort.

Sue

 

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kneader65

Sue,

Thanks for responding.I think Bosch Universal's inherent design does not  make it very suitable for high hydration dough.I am now of the opinion that  a planetray mixer may be more suitable for high hydration dough as it does not have a centre pole(correct me if I am wrong).I will definitely try your suggestion of holding back some of the water.Though I did a fair bit of research before buying the BUP,this issue had not come to my attention.Hopefully this information would be useful to prospective mixer buyers.

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Janetcook

 I had a Bosch and had the same issues but not only with wet doughs.  Small amounts of dough would do it too.  I never found a solution so, after about a year of tangling with it and after some research, I bought a DLX mixer and have been totally pleased.

Good Luck,

Janet