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Manual crank dough sheeter

MANNA's picture
MANNA

Manual crank dough sheeter

I make 24 croissants every sat morning along with 48 bagels. Its all done by hand and I laminate my dough in between making the breads on friday night. I need to get a dough sheeter to make the croissants. The results are to unpredictable and take alot of my time. I have a good idea how to construct my own. As my project progresses over the next year or so I will keep everyone up to date. If it works I will be more than happy to construct and sell them. I want conveyers on this also not just an overglorified pasta machine. Wish me luck!

yy's picture
yy

Sounds like an exciting project. I'm excited to see how it progresses and I'm impressed that you could even consider building one on your own. Best of luck!

 

daveazar531's picture
daveazar531

i have been always wondered if a used or home made clay slab roller would do the trick for a home baker. Of course you would want to thoughly clean used equipment

when i move into a bigger place i am going to give this a shot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOCoivzq_pg

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KMIAA

What about making something like this?  I don't know anything about this at all, but thought you might be interested.

http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/rolls/rolls.html

MANNA's picture
MANNA

Thanks for the support and interest everyone. Below is a pic of what I want to create with the addition of two 24 inch conveyers on either side. That will make laminating doughs a breeze. Im brain storming how to setup the thickness adjustment now and how to support the rollers in the frame. I want to really use this for production so it has to stand-up to alot of use and abuse.

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johnnyo

Is this item still condidered for Sale?? Any idea of shipping costs to the USA ??

thanks

mazhur's picture
mazhur

could you please label the parts ie components and state their function?

thanks

mazhur's picture
mazhur

sorry ,,but my question was to Manna

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acrosley

Hi Manna,

You may also want to consider an automated table top unit.  We sell one that's extremely durable.  You can find it on our site here:  http://www.empirebake.com/pastry-dough-sheeters.asp.

It's great for everything from croissants to doughnuts, pie dough, biscuits, cookies and more.  Works great on fondant too if you're making cakes!

~Alan 

MANNA's picture
MANNA

I did look at that model on your website. There is no cost advertised with it though. Im going to bet it is over $1000.00 though. That makes it cost prohibitive for me who bakes for the farmers market every weekend. I want a option thats under 500.00 for the average home processor. Something like this is still good for producing laminated doughs, pasta, or even rolling out cake and cookies. I know Empire is great for commercial equipment. There is a lack of equipment for those of us who are more than home-bakers but not yet at the commercial level. A nice manual sheeter at the 500.00 or less price point and I would be calling today to buy one. I have alot of customers who like my croissants and are dissappointed that I will not make them every week now. This winter Im going to get a prototype worked out and sent to a CNC shop to get cut and powdercoated. Use it and work out the bugs. I will apply for a patent also. When I get a working model and the legal is worked out if Empire would like to buy the patent and start producing and selling, lets talk. And right there is why I will not post pics intill the model is completed.

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acrosley

agree with you there!  There is a lack of equipment sized for that demographic. I myself would like to see a stone hearth deck oven, (with steam!!), sized down for the home kitchen.  

Good luck with the project.  Keep me posted as you progress - I'd love to see what you come up with!

~Alan

loydb's picture
loydb

A ~$500 sheeter would be of interest to me as well, particularly if it folded into something compact for storage.

 

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sdevault

I have looked for something like this for years - something bigger than a pasta roller which I can use to roll pizza dough, tortillas, cinnamon rolls, etc.  I'm wondering if this would work: http://www.baileypottery.com/slabrollers/drd2.htm#30-D

I've never worked with clay, so I'm not sure if this would be functional for dough, but it's only 234 bucks and it's 16 inches wide.  Granted it could be a bit wider, but for 2o0 clams, it might just be the perfect thing.

Anyone else used one before?

MANNA's picture
MANNA

I will keep updates coming as I progress. And I will post some of my brainstorm pics. I want anyone here to be able to make this if they need it. And if I get a good working model and want me to put one together for them sure. TFL'ers are the best, and I want to give back. 

MANNA's picture
MANNA

Something that folds for storage. Thats a good idea and can be incorparated into the design. The conveyors could rotate on the axles of the first roller and then just need something to lock them into place upright. That would also give the option of using the conveyors or removing them and hand feeding the dough into the machine.

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gerhard

I think making a sheeter is not an easy proposition, if money is no object I would buy a Rondo sheeter both conveyers fold up so it stores in a small space.  If you want one at a more reasonable price you could probably find a used Moline sheeter at not too bad a price.  If portability is the main criteria look for one of those little pizza sheeters.  If you are considering making a sheeter you should keep in mind that all the flour dust makes a good home for bugs so a lot of consideration needs to be given to ease of cleaning the machine.

Gerhard

loydb's picture
loydb

Googled Rondo sheeter, saw the tabletop one and thought "how expensive could it be?"

Now I know. Yikes.

 

MANNA's picture
MANNA

I have looked at alot of sheeters online. While I have found alot that would do the job, none are priced within my reach. There is a hole in the market for the 500.00 price point. I dont need the electric motors and stuff just a nice basic one like in the pic above.  I have the general design in my head, just need to work out the details. I think alot of people here on TFL would like a manual sheeter if we can get it for under 500.00.

MANNA's picture
MANNA

Here is a quick brainstorm I jotted down for discussion.

mazhur's picture
mazhur

The designed sketched by Manna is the standard design for most manual dough sheeters. However, the roller adjusting bar and its locking system is not shown. Basically, the roller adjustment is done by cams fixed at the end of a shaft across both ends of the roller. These cams are turned by a handle to adjust roller distance and then locked in place.

Can someone post a real picture of the 'attachment' or sketch a technical drawing of the roller adjusting assembly?

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PeterinVT

I've been thinking of how to make one myself.  Here is the design I came up with that I think you can make for about $150:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/a7amd8u33UB11HxA5hJaLiVjtTQ5nV4KmZYB5EhFPsu_BY41_l4S2cz70l7empVVn5KI0h5t_J-LrSH-PsnflusnsG0a9eNH0mjszP7CA_tt8uopb4vm

In my design, you move the working board back and forth rather than using a crank system.  Ideally, the top roller would be mounted with crank down screws to adjust the width.  I'm planning on have a fixed thickness of about 5/16" since I will be making cinnamon rolls and connecting the top roller to the two center bottom ones with some cheap cutting boards with holes drilled into them.  I'd run 1/4" threaded rod through all the rollers then washers and wing nuts.  I can get the food grade deli board made up at a local plastic company that sells it by the square foot.

If you wanted to add some power, you could attach a fixed portable drill to the top roller and it would self feed itself once the dough engaged.  With some creative wiring, I bet you could make it go in to reverse once the dough passes through it.  

There seems some potential in using a slab roller for clay, but you'd have to make sure you can use it for food.   They come in the $500 range. 

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cranbo
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Faith in Virginia

Don't know if this is what you were thinking about... The price is not bad and it looks like it stores easy.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dough-roller-Dough-sheeter-Pizza-equipment-Pizza-dough-machine-10-3-260mm-/321060615079?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ac0b433a7

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pambakesbread

I have been looking for a manual roller/sheeter for two years. I just found what I want on Ebay. 16" but it was sold it was brand new!! Where are these things manufactured? Somebody out there is making them. I am trying to get the seller to cough up the brand name if she comes through I will pass it along. Good hunting. Pam

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proth5

Machines Caplain http://www.caplainmachines.com/laminoirs.html makes a hand cranked sheeter.  My third hand information on the pricing is $2500.  I know a few people really drooling over the thing.  Myself included.

Hope this helps.

 

angelica cook's picture
angelica cook

I have also been looking for one for years.

Just found an Italian company that makes what looks like the perfect home sheeter.I am now waiting for the price.

I am from Israel and they have an agent here its worth checking if they have a US agent

http://www.rollmatic.com/s5b_len_96_305_284_1.asp

 

 

 

ilbaker's picture
ilbaker

Angelica cook, did you get a price from the Italian company? Manna, have you made any progress with your plans?

mazhur's picture
mazhur

Have a look at this,,,,it might work!

Philco washing machine ..wringer on top

mazhur's picture
mazhur

This might work as a dough sheeter....

clothes wringer

mazhur's picture
mazhur

I have noted that all dough sheeters have  rotating rollers. Is it possible to make a sheeter wherein roller rotates as well as progressively pushes down while   traversing back and forth the distance of the table on which dough is to be rolled??

The main problem I note with such a setup is of dough  'sticking' to the table..

Plz let me have your comments.

 

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yanaolivia

Someone mentioned this earlier and the ceramics studio posted above pictures an antique one, but this slab roller looks pretty close to perfect to me. I'm going to look at one tomorrow and will post results.

 

http://www.theceramicshop.com/store/product/12086/NorthStar-Standard-Roller-18%22/

 

 

Binturong's picture
Binturong

Hi! I am interested in solving this problem, as I am a mechanical engineering student in a product development class. If I want to successfully pitch this possible product to my team members, I need to know how it is distinct from other dough sheeters on the market. For instance, how is you desired dough sheeter different from a 10" pizza dough roller? 

Example: http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-Dough-roller-Dough-sheeter-Pizza-dough-pastry-machine-Ravioli-equipment-/251688415282

My thread: http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/40701/your-dream-bread-baking-equipment-doesnt-exist-yet

Please help me create a convincing argument so that our $200 budget for this class goes to something actually useful, like producing a dough sheeter, instead of to some arduino microprocessor and an infrared camera that no one will ever use. ; ;

PS If i can convince them to look into this consumer need, we would have to interview other people who would use this product. There are a lot of farmers markets in my area (San Diego) who sell pastries. We could collect our common knowledge of this problem and work together to solve it! 

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Binturong

Also, to clarify on the 24" conveyors, Those would not be manual correct? By conveyor you mean the conveyors that are at any grocery store cashier checkout line?  

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Binturong

The distinction between a pasta roller and a dough sheeter is that in a pasta roller, the roller is what you crank, but with a dough sheeter, the conveyor is what moves! 

Like in the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYq6leJjxHo