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40 Percent Caraway Rye

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codruta

40 Percent Caraway Rye

I'm posting this bread hoping that it will inspire other TFL members to bake it, because it is a great bread. It took me a long time till I decided to make it and now I regret that I haven't done it sooner. Full of flavor, easy to make and friendly with rye beginners, it is light and healthy and for my taste, it's perfect.

I followed mr. Hamelman's formula from "BREAD" page 194, with few modifications:

- I didn't used commercial yeast.

- I increased hydration from 68% to almost 73%.

-Instead of white flour I used a mix of 41% Malthouse Doves Farm (which is a mix of Brown Wheat Flour, Malted Wheat Flakes 15%, Rye Flour 3.6% and Malt Flour), 41% Whole Wheat Doves Farm (but I removed the big brans) and 18% white flour austrian W 480 (mehl griffig).

For those who don't have the book, eric (ehanner) posted the formula on his blog, a few years ago (here is the link to the formula).

For the quantities and details of the method I used, please visit my romanian blog (translation available), link here.

 

 

Hope you'll make this bread as soon as you can! Happy baking to all of you!

codruta

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ananda's picture
ananda

Hi Codruta,

the crumb displays amazing dough strength through control of the fermentation; and almost 44% rye flour in the grist.

Just a note to anyone reading the post on your own blog: the translation to English makes reference to "cumin" in the main text, where Caraway should appear.   Anyone who hasn't seen Codruta's blog, here is my recommendation: pay a visit, it's a gem!

Very best wishes

Andy

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codruta

Hi Andy, thank you so much for your generous comment. You are right about cumin-caraway, unfortunatelly, I can't change the automatic translation.

I didn't realised the crumb shows good strength through control of the fermentation. I'm very much following my instincts and I'm not able to explain the teory behind the fermentation. I watch the dough and take decisions based on experience and feelings, not on a real knowledge (of maybe there is some knowledge, but not as much as I would like) Truly, I can't wait to come to you and talk about this. Be prepared, cause I have a tons of questions.

All the best thoughts,

codruta

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Juergen Krauss

Codruta, you are a master! 

Juergen

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Yerffej

Codruta,

Beautiful beautiful bread.  Maybe Andy should be headed to Romania so that you can teach him !!!! 

Just kidding Andy,

Jeff

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Nickisafoodie

Hi Codruta, fabulous looking loaf.  Can you shed more color on the baking stone used?  It seems thick and similar to a patio block - What type of stone is it, any input would be welcome...  thank you!

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codruta

Hi, Nick. Thank you for your interest. The baking stone is a granite stone (untreated with chemicals) and it has 2 cm thick. I never used something else, so I can't compare, but I'm pleased with it. In the last 3 anh half  years I changed 3 or 4 pieces: the first was to thin, the second broke because I removed from the oven when it was still hot and I cleaned it imediately with a wet cloth (I've learnt my lesson then), the third was too large and the air didn't circulate well and the last, that one you see, I have it for more than a year and till now it worked fine.

 

Hope my answer has the info you wanted, if not, ask me again.

codruta

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dabrownman

think Andy will learn a thing or two from you.  Your greads are just beautiful and so well crafted - they have to taste great.

Nice baking codruta!

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Toad.de.b

Took the words right out of my...fingertips, brownman.  And if Andy feels you've got nothing on his rye chops, so to speak, you can certainly show him the way around a camera.  Beautiful baking and photography!

Tom

 

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jefklak

Simply amazing. I love the denser structure of the bread for rye but still quite open. 
I can't really say anthing right now, I'm a bit blown away by the beautiful pictures you've taken. I *love* them.

How did you take the pictures with the top view and the two slices, with a stand or simply by bending over it at the table? 
Lovely, please keep us up to date on the next bake session!

I do have one question though, your hydratation level is quite high but you managed to get such high nice risen loaves. How did you manage to shape and get enough surface tension? Did you use proofing baskets?

Thanks! 

SCruz's picture
SCruz

The crumb looks beautiful.

I went to the blog site but don't see how to get a translation.

Help.

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codruta

Hi, SCruz,

and thank you.

On my blog, if you look on the right, below my picture my FB page an the Rss feed, you can see the word "Translate" and some flags. Pick a flag or select the language you want.

Did it helped?

codruta

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varda

Codruta,  This came out so nicely, and I like your modifications.   I haven't made this one yet, and  you are showing the way.   I love the effect you got with dusting and scoring.  -Varda

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isand66

Excellent looking loaves.  Your crumb looks perfect and beautiful scoring.

Thanks for sharing.

Ian

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Janetcook

Codruta,

Beautiful loaves.  I love the dusting of flour and your scoring.  The shape is also very nice. This will have to go onto my 'to bake' list and added to my rye collection.  

Funny how we stay away from certain breads and then wonder why.....One of the things I have learned here is to not be afraid of baking with rye flour.  I learned from following formulas of people who are very skilled with using rye flour....Hanseata, MiniOven, Andy, Juergen and Hansjokim to mention just a few. I now have yours to add to that list :-)

Take Care and thanks for the post!

Janet

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holds99

Codruta,

Those certainly are lovely loaves of rye.  Looks like you got maximum oven-spring, great crust and crumb and nice scoring (I see some ears).  It doesn't get better than that. 

Howard

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salma

Hi Codruta, I couldn't resist those loaves so I followed your advice and made them yesterday. I followed Eric's recipe, with the yeast. I just decided to make them the nite before at 11 pm. So I put together the starter, rye and water. Next morning mixed final dough and by 2 pm I had the most beautiful loaves, with nice crust and lovely soft crumb. Got rave reviews from a lot of people. This one is a keeper and will definitely try again, may be without the yeast when I have more time. Unfortunately, I have not figured out how to post pictures yet.
I hope more people will try this one and thanks to you and ehanner.
Salma