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Black Onyx Cocoa / Dutch Processed Black Cocoa?

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JennsBread

Black Onyx Cocoa / Dutch Processed Black Cocoa?

I am looking for a bulk or wholesale supplier of Black Onyx or Dutch Processed Black Powdered Cocoa (I believe that they are the same thing....)
I have done some searches, sent some emails.... come up mostly blank.... I see it on A,azon for about $12 for  16 oz, but I want a bigger quantity than that....  I would even be willing to buy 25 or 50 lbs for the right price, but have had no luck finding it that way....

We have been doing a chocolate bread (with whole ground wheat) that is simply AMAZING... yet, the place that I know of that sells it around here... well... I generally freeequent them as little as possible due to the HUGE markup on stuff there. It just annoys me. (cinnamon that can be bought for $5.50 a lb, they charge $18 a lb for.. crazyness!)

Most other stuff I have been able to find, when looking, in google searches or just thru Honeyville Grain..... this I am having a hard time with!

any help out there?

 

TIA

 

demegrad's picture
demegrad

You can check Dutch Valley Food. I bought tons of corn syrup from them before (don't worry I didn't eat it or feed it to anyone). Just give them a call and they'll give you some sort of code to see the prices online, but if I remember correctly all their prices were quite good.

 

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JennsBread

Dutch Valley Retail pricing $5.71 a lb, with shipping comes to approx $7.43 a pound. working on getting wholesale pricing from them (need to open a customer acct w/ a business license #)
:-)
I would buy from them at retail as well, if I have to
THANK YOU!
y'all are a wealth of information!

 

golfermd's picture
golfermd

They are very nice at Golden Organics. Give them a try: http://www.goldenorganics.net/our-products

Dan

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JennsBread

Golden Organics does not have it. 

:-)
they have dutch processed but not Black.
Thanks for the lead! 

Yerffej's picture
Yerffej

Hi,

I buy cocoa for the very same reason that you do.  I have found a supplier near me that is okay but I am still looking for better cocoa.  I found this but have not yet ordered from them.

http://www.preparedpantry.com/Dutch-processed-cocoa-powder.aspx

I would like to hear more about the bread that you are making,

Jeff

Edited to add: I just ordered from them moments ago

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JennsBread

Jeff, Thank you for the link... I see that that is for Dutch Processed Coaoa powder, and I may try it out.. but I think that BLACK cocoa powder or BLACK ONYX cocoa powder is soemthing different....

here is what I have found that it looks like - (I can't send a photo of what i HAVE, it is at my friends house), will get a photo tomorrow - ish

but here is a LINK to a photo...  (i tried to attach link but it says a set off the spam filter and my comment will not be saved?? dunno what happened...)

thanks for the ideas guys, keep them coming!

;-)

JennsBread's picture
JennsBread

Prepared Pantry does not have the Black. I called to check.
Thanks for the lead, tho! 

JennsBread's picture
JennsBread

http://www.savoryspiceshop.com/spices/cocoablk.html

heres a photos anyhow, I hope.... prices way way too high on this tho

Yerffej's picture
Yerffej

Interesting looking stuff.  Why do you want something that is so dark?  Or is it the alkalinity that you are after?

Jeff

gerhard's picture
gerhard

If it has an alkaline taste the Dutch process would not have been done right the idea is to neutralize the natural acidity of cocoa.

Gerhard

Yerffej's picture
Yerffej

The website describes this cocoa as:  "dutch cocoa powder has been alkalized to the extreme"

I really do not know exactly what this means.

Jeff

JennsBread's picture
JennsBread

we only have to use 1/4 cup for an entire batch recipe (6 loaves)
Its pretty amazing stuff!
:-) 

breadsong's picture
breadsong

Hello,
I have some really dark (Brazilian) cocoa called Blackshire cocoa.
I googled "blackshire cocoa" and found a baking ingredient supplier in Canada that sells black cocoa
in 5kg/25kg quantities.
Maybe this company sells what you are looking for?
http://www.snowcap.com/   (you can download their catalog, .pdf)
:^) breadsong

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JennsBread

thank you!
I called them... they are a wholesaler, and thats not technically a problem as my cousin will let me use his business license info to purchase, but they are located in Burnaby, BC (Canada) and do not ship to the US in any way shape or form.
They charge approx $5.67 a lb for a 55 lb bag. (I say approx, because it is actually $312.18 for 25 kilos)   I would be willing to pay that, BUT have no way (yet) to get it from BC to AZ, USA.
I found another place to get it that charges $3.49 a LB, but the minimum order is 6000 Lbs. LOL. a bit out of my price range. they ARE in New Jersey tho
:-)
 

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Duecento

Black cocoa powder is what they use to make Oreo cookies taste the way they do. I bought some a year ago and have been having fun mixing it in varying proportions with regular Dutch process cocoa powder to get some very interesting flavor profiles.