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Baked-in writing

mikeh22's picture
mikeh22

Baked-in writing

Hi everyone!

I am trying to fake a photo in Photoshop of a loaf of bread with words "baked" onto the surface. I am really struggling with getting it to look authentic and finding images of a similar thing. Does anyone have any experience with this sort of thing ie. is there a term for this technique? Or know where I could find a photograph of this? Any help you have would be greatly appreciated!

Mini Oven's picture
Mini Oven

or will you get the silent treatment?

bluezebra's picture
bluezebra

hi. this is what i do for a living. i have an ad agency and graphic design business. what you are asking is to have a step by step guide to a complex set of commands. one of the things you could do is go google some photo shop bulletin boards or design forums. then once you are there, post your question. people are pretty helpful about giving links to different tutorials.

what you would need to do (and there are hundreds of ways to accomplish the same effect, depending on the artist. we each have our own way of doing things...as in baking) is master the grunge effect. it's a multi-layer, multi-step effect of laying the right font down on top of a high resolution image of the bread with varying amounts of transparency between layers. you need to know how to colorize the type layers and grunge layers and you need to know how to build depth into the type using filters and transparency and multiple layers.

if it sounds complicated, it's because it is. there's a reason people pay me to do what i do. because it's the difference between me being a novice baker and an artisan commercial baker. i will bake for my family's use but i don't have the experience or skill to bake for commerce.

not to go into a rant. but people think because the tools of design are now readily accessible to the masses, that they can design. well i own an oven, but it doesn't mean i know how to bake...you know? a software program does not a designer make.

the best investment (especially if you are doing this for your business) is to begin and develop a relationship with a designer or small ad agency and grown together as your business blooms. if you are wanting this desing for personal pleasure, then like home baking...knock yourself out doing the research on design techniques and theories and have a blast learning to master photoshop. have fun doing it. it's a cool thing to play with!

best of luck. please don't take this as being harsh ok?!

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ehanner

Do you want the words "Baked" to be baked in or other words?

Eric

ehanner's picture
ehanner

I'm not a Photoshop pro and I don't play one on TV, but I try. Not having a good descrption of what you want, is this near what you have in mind?

Eric

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redivyfarm

That's cool, e!

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browndog

This is browndog5's son, brownpuppy1 (she made me say this).  I came across this thread and thought the idea was an interesting one.  Here's something I made messing around with GIMP.  I made a texture from a part of the image and used that to draw the text.  Then I played around with blur and sharpen and added darker brown to some places to get the feel right.

Dog Food

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mse1152

Browndog5, what a funny photo.  Truly a creative endeavor on your part.  But don't give that pretty loaf to the pooch!

Sue 

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browndog

not a bit of it! This really is my teenage son's handiwork--I'm so computer-unsavvy that yesterday was the first time I got what :-) meant! I thought it was just more tech inscrutability decipherable only by the elite, or at least the capable...then it hit me...duh.

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Floydm

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Floydm

A miraculous appearance by Peter Reinhart in the crumb of my bread.

Sorry, I'm tired and a bit loopy tonight.

 

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Susan

Nice of Peter R. to appear. Hahahaha Thanks, Floyd. I enjoyed these AND the links.

Susan

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Paddyscake

I love it!! made me laugh  :  ))))

Floydm's picture
Floydm

If you don't get it, take a look here or here or here. Be advised that links contain strong language and crass humor.

I'm done.  For real.  Maybe.

 

ehanner's picture
ehanner

Who would of guessed, you are a stitch! Very creative stuff Floyd.

Browndog5 yours is also very creative. Mine looks so pedestrian in contrast.

Eric

browndog's picture
browndog

your's has dignity, Eric. Yours is dressed for Sunday, the others...bread gone wild.

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Sam-I-Am

This is the LAST place I expected to see a cat macro. Hilarious!

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mikeh22

I seem to have sparked off quite a thread - thank you everyone for your replies!

Bluezebra, I was looking more for images of actual loaves rather than photoshop tips (I was disappointed to find I couldn't even get hold of a traditional "Hovis" loaf for inspiration!) I am a designer too and came across this board looking for images to study of the thing I was trying to fake. I copied the text out of the loaf layer, and have been using different layer transparencies and effects, and photoshop's "emboss" layer style to try and get the look right, and think I am pretty close. I am not familiar with the "grunge" technique you talked about. Any help you could give would be excellent, sorry I seem to be turning this into a bit of a photoshop thread!

Thanks again for all the replies to my post!

browndog's picture
browndog

You can't be serious. All you wanted was a picture of some BREAD? Some of us have to face ourselves in the morning, you know. (And it was my SON, for pete's sake. I can barely POST a photo, let alone doctor one.) (Floyd, hidden depths, my man, who knew?)

ehanner's picture
ehanner

This reminds me of the time when our little daughter ask how baby's were made. While I was choking my wife figured out she was referring to baby dolls. Pointing out that the simplest answer is often the best one.

My preconceived notions about having to temper my sometimes mischievous sense of humor have been altered. It seems the boss man gets it.

Eric

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Susan

Oh, while you were choking, your wife figured....

Susan

Sorry, couldn't help that.

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bluezebra

u should google grunge effect and u will get a busload of tutorial entries. on it. it basically utilizes layers of "crud" for want of a better word. many are already created now by enterprising savvy artists and are available for download. or you can create your own from a textured background, brushes, adding scratches and dust, using filters. it is always best to create your grunge mask then convert it into a vector for use later in multi-applications. then you basically use 1 or more of these masks applying color to each with varying transparent effects. it takes a new image and ages it.

with bread, ur not going to want the writing to be uniform, hence the grunge effect. there is also type out there already for sale by adobe or at fonts.com but who wants to buy when you can age arial, or geometry, or helvetica or avante garde yourself for free instead of spending 30bucks or more??

ur also going to have to be able to use not only the emboss, shadow and other filter effects, but ur also going to have to be good with a freehand brush, airbrush, or clone stamp in order to add depth.

you also need to keep in mind perspective. your letters will not be a consistent size here. and the type must be recessed into the dough with discolorations (grunge again). many times, by going to these sites with photoshop pros on them, and asking your question of them or challenging them, they will do samples for grins for u, just to work out a new technique for themselves. and u will see the difference from what was posted above, to what u r really trying to achieve.

the only way to become a pro at this is to practice practice practice, learning new steps and techniques and using as many of the tools in ur palette as frequently as possible...oh and the other tip? get as big a screen as u possibly can. and use zoom. zoom in impossibly big. sometimes i work with a 1 pixel brush only. many times i do that. that's when it's exacting and takes hours but the results are worth it. it is also worth it to use a monitor color correction program. i use monaco gamma.

 good luck.

 

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Mini Oven

my sentiments exactly!  Cracks me up and hubby can't understand what can be so funny about bread and an empty mixer.      Mini Oven