
Where to find bulk supplies: Linen Bannenton / Couche / Lame
Greetings bakers,
I'm opening a small bake shop, but I'm having trouble finding a few items in bulk at reasonable prices.
-Linen Lined Banneton:
I found them online by Matfer Bourgeat, but they were $20-$30 each! That sounds crazy!? I was paying just $9 for each 1kg willow bannenton from Germany: http://brotformen.de/.
Must I order them from france? I found linen/cotten bannetons for about $5: http://www.meilleurduchef.com/cgi/mdc/l/fr/boutique/produits/dec-banneton_entoile_ovale_230.html Are there any other options? Should I just make my own?
Couche: I've also found couche in the US, but each peice seems to be $20, that also seems wild. Are there any places where I can buy a long peice and cut it myself?
I guess I'm just looking for bulk suppliers for artisan bakeries. Do they exist? Thanks!





Hi Lalush,
You can buy couche material by the yard at SFBI http://www.sfbi.com/linen_canvas_couche.html. It's probably not as cheap as you are used to, but still reasonable. Bannetons are another matter. They tend to be expensive here in the U.S. I have bought them from here and here.
Brad
I have not found baker's linen for less than from SFBI. If you are opening a bakery, a relationship with TMB, the bakery supply arm of SFBI would be good to establish. They have a very comprehensive catalogue, only a fraction of which is on their web site.
David
I was under the impression that couche material was simply a finely-woven heavy-weight linen that ultimately became well-floured through use. Wouldn't it be possible to purchase the appropriate weight material from a fabric supplier and cut it into managable pieces? One trip through the wash would remove any sizing or finishing that had been applied, you'd be able to custom-cut the fabric to your specific wishes, and it would be a whole lot cheaper. Perhaps I'm mistaken about the fabric and would appreciate being told the difference.
Philip
about the fabric - but perhaps not so current on the availability and pricing of said material. The price offered by TMB baking is way better than you would find at most retail fabric outlets - IF you could find suitable material at all.
If you wash linen to remove finishing, you are then also stuck with the task of ironing it - if you want a smooth "like new" surface. Some bakers feel very strongly that they don't want to do all that ironing and must have that smooth surface. So perhaps better to buy the right tool for the job.
If one is in a very large urban area you may be able to find what we regard as couche linen in different widths at a good enough price to make it worth you while. I have spent many a happy hour doing fabric shopping and really have found nothing better at the price than going with TMB.
Hope this helps.
for the explanation about the linen. Never thought about having to iron it flat.
Philip
You might want to buy raw, uncoated canvas (=linen) from an art supplies store. That is what I did and I got a piece of 1m x 3m for about 24 euros.
A very suitable substitute, and cheap, is a cotten drop cloth from your local hardware store. Wash it, cut it to size, run a serger around the edge, and you're set.
Now, go to a $1.00 store and buy up a bunch of cheap, plastic colanders. 30 plastic colanders or 1 woven basket? Do the math.
I run a small bake shop and that's one of the places I saved a good deal of cash. Sure, woven bannetons look really nice, but a colander lined with cloth accomplishes the exact same purpose.
Katom.com has woven polypropylene baskets for in various sizes for $1-$10. I am about to place an order myself. Check out:
http://www.katom.com/229-M2474.html - Handwoven Ridal Collection Basket, 9-1/4" x 6-1/4" x 3-1/4", oval, black, polypropylene, heavy solid cord $38/dozen.
I've seen a couple bakeries use baskets like these. They work quite well and are very cost-effective.
I was lucky in that my mother-in-law was a seamstress and cook and when she passed there were yards of usable material here at the house. As for baskets I buy plastic woven baskets in different sizes from the Filipino Market near my house for anywhere between 69 cents to $1.50 ea depending on the size and they work just fine.
Go to Wal-Mart or Micheals or somewhere similar, check out thier fabric section and ask them for linen. I spent less than 10 dollars for one or two square yards worth.
Linen is linen, just cut it yourself.
This is what I use:
http://www.dharmatrading.com/html/eng/3581-AA.shtml
You do need to zig-zag the edges to keep it from fraying, but it is incredibly soft and drapes beautifully.
Note that the raw stock is 60" wide so you can make it into two (or three) very easily.
And it is pretty cheap (~$1/sq ft)
I started this post 7 months ago, here was what I have found since then:
Couche/Linen Canvas: TMB Baking offers 3 sizes starting at $8/yard. In a bind: The linen canvas from the local art supplies store, worked just fine in a bind. http://www.tmbbaking.com/supplies.html
Linen Lined Baskets: San Fransisco Baking Institute offers long and round shapes in variable sizes with reasonable prices starting at $8. In a bind, mixing bowl and tightly wound dish towel. http://www.sfbi.com/wicker_baskets.html
Bannenton: My best option for cane bannentons turned out to be ordering direct from the manufacturer in germany. Even with the 36 euro shipping cost, the final price hard to beat, somewhere around $14 per basket. http://brotformen.de/
Scores - San Fransisco Baking Institute offers a box of 250 blades and a variety of handles. In a bind, I also found the single edge shaving blades at CVS to work fine when I was in a bind. http://www.sfbi.com/blades.html
I appreciate all the responses this thread has received, thanks for the help everyone!
Lalush
Hello Lalush,
I own a company that makes specialty wooden lames. You can see photos of them on my amazon shop here: Black Walnut Lame or here at: Bamboo Lame
I designed these lames to be unique. The others available on the market did not appeal to the artistic nature of bread baking. These are also designed to receive any type of flat razor blade. This means you can even use triangular or square ex-acto blades if regular double edged lame razors are unavailable.
These lames feature brass thumbnuts for quick and easy razor replacement and to ensure a firm blade grip. They are available in several wood varieties including, black walnut, maple, brazilian beech, and white oak.
We also have large medium weight couches 22"x60" and small 20" square proofing cloths, and we will have them listed soon in heavyweight linen. They will be viewable in our shop here: www.amazon.com/shops/primalkitchen
If you have further questions, or would like prices for bulk orders please let me know.
Thank you.
Wyllis Greenway.
http://www.northwestsourdough.com/store/bakingstore