To our German/German-speaking friends:
What is the best US food item to use for genuine German Quark ?
I have seen quark in stores in the states. Have you seen this too or no? If you have seen it, is it not the real deal?
in the stores here.
Alas, no decent Quark available in the US! A Vermont company makes quark, but it is hellish expensive and doesn't taste right. For my German Käsekuchen I use cream cheese, you don't miss the quark tang because of the addition of lemon zest, and it is lightened by whipped egg whites. (Neither ricotta, nor cottage cheese are adequate substitutes, their consistency and taste is too different, and farmer's cheese isn't quite right, either).
For other purposes I make a quark substitute with buttermilk:
2 quarts buttermilk (2 packages)
Pour 2 packages buttermilk (= 2 quarts) in a bowl with a lid. Place overnight in the oven at 150 F. The next morning, pour clotted buttermilk through a cheese cloth lined strainer, tie ends into a knot, and place (bowl with sieve) for several hours in the fridge, until drained (you can use the whey instead of water for bread baking).
There is also a method to make it with buttermilk starter (I haven't tried it out, yet):
1 gallon pasteurized whole milk
1 packet direct-set buttermilk starter
2 - 3 tbsp. heavy cream (if too dry)
Heat milk to 88 F. Add starter and mix well. Cover and let sit at room temperature for 24 hours, or until set. Pour mixture into collander, lined with cheese cloth. Tie corners into a knot, and refrigerate to drain overnight. If finished quark is too dry, add the heavy cream.
To make Sahnequark (cream quark): use 1 cup heavy cream/4 cups whole milk
To make Magerquark (low fat quark): use 1 - 2% milk instead of whole milk
For a creamier consistency: use 1 pint of light cream or half and half/gallon of whole milk
What are you going to make with quark?
duplicate our Quark. I was going to make http://www.creative-sugar-studio.de/rezepte1.htm#Thüringer- Käsekuchen
and will try your suggestions. My mom used to make the best Quarkkuchen with almonds and raisins.
is a German import store, they sell Quark, but at OUTRAGEOUS prices. I have to disagree w/ hanseata, I have been using either ricotta for my German cheesecakes, or a blended mix of 3/5 cottage cheese, 1/5 cream cheese, 1/5 sour cream (make sure you put this through a food processor and blend it well in order to get rid of the curd in the cottage cheese).
The only other option you have is to make it yourself, but using whole milk instead of buttermilk - or even raw milk, if you have access to that. Google it, there should be recipes around.
might work ! I will have much to do next week :) Thanks so much !
but ricotta has a gritty consistency I don't like in dishes I make with quark. I tried a pureed cottage cheese/sour cream mix, too, it's halfways okay.
Unfortunately I never saw whole fat Greek yogurt here around, it's all low or no fat (I hate being fat censored).
you will likely have to make it yourself. I'm w/ you on the "low-fat" thing - YUCK. As for the consistency of ricotta, I'm only using it for baking and very successfully, the consistency has never mattered. :)
Here's a link to an online German store:www. germancorner.com/recipes/hints/quark
I bought the quark maker a couple years ago and I love it. I can't swear to the authenticity of the taste since I have never been to Germany but I really like it in pastries.
for yoghurt ? Neat machine, thank you for the link !
I have made quark mostly and use it for pastries. Though suddenly I have a taste for some good yogurt too!!
There is a dairy culture called villi ( a Finnish yogurt)that has more of a sour cream/buttermilk taste than the buttermilk you buy at the grocery store these days. I bought a culture starter from Seeds of Health.
It cultures at room temperature and is self renewing. If you make it with full fat milk or even cream it is absolutely sinful! It may need to be drained somewhat if you want a marscapone or greek yogurt consistency. It sounds similar to the quark you are talking about but may be easier to make.
Thanks so much for all the links, I'm going to read them and look into quark made from yogurt, I curious as to the taste difference....I love quark!
I make my own from buttermilk because Quark is $35.00 a kilo in Australia and very hard to find. I use it for sweet pastries, pizza bases, sweet dumplings and my cheesecake. Making my own also leaves me with the Whey which I use in gravies, cakes and bread.
seems that the Quark Torte looks very German :) Nice.
of the cheese cake ? It looks just like my Mom's.
Thanks much ! Oh, btw, yesterday I received the cultures to make my own Quark. Let's see what happens :)
Sure Anna, I'm heading out but I'll add the recipe here tonight :) The cake looks like my Mum's also because I use her recipe lol
Oh I can't wait to hear how you get on with the cultures and making quark!
200 grams plain flour
65 grams butter, unsalted (room temperature)
65 grams sugar
pinch of salt
Add plain flour in to bowl and rub softened
butter into the flour. Add remaining ingredients
to form a soft pastry. Grease a 26 cm
spring form tin and place shortcrust dough on bottom of spring form tin and also pressing it up 3/4 of the sides. Refrigerate until filling is prepared.
4 egg ( Separated)
I packet vanillin sugar
3-4drops of lemon essence
1 packet cheesecake help(OR 2 ½ tbsp. custard powder)
1 cup milk
Mix everything ( Not egg whites)until smooth with a mixer.
Beat 4 egg whites until firm and fold into
the quark mixture.
Add cheesecake help ( or custard powder) and 1 cup of milk.. Beat together.
Mix well and fill into the baking pan laid out with the dough for the crust and bake at 350F (170C)
on the middle rack for approximately 60 minutes. Switch off the oven and allow the cheesecake to totally cool in the oven with the door slightly open.
I just have one question. The cheesecake help and 1 cup of milk does that get folded into the quark mix ?
Appreciate it !
Sorry I must have been half asleep still this morning!
Mix everything ( Not egg whites)until smooth with a mixer. Add cheesecake help ( or custard powder) and 1 cup of milk.. Beat together.
Beat 4 egg whites until firm and then gently fold into the quark mixture.
thanks, Sonia !
Check out Hawthorne Valley Farm, Ghent, New York 12075. 518-672-7500.
I have seen QUARK at the Farm Store - no question they can help you on this.
A lot of German people in this (Rudolf Steiner, Anthroposophical) group.
Check out their website. - Big biodynamic farm - they grow vegetables on
our land. I have seen pastries there with Quark/fruit filling.
for making quark with several choices of their cultures and rennet and their products are the least expensive I have found so far.
I'm so glad I found this thread, I had never heard of Quark before I read this. I live in Southern California and I use a lot of Queso Fresco in my baking. Queso Fresco is a fresh Mexican Cheese some refer to it as Farmer's Cheese as well. This Quark sounds very interesting and I'm gonna have to try my hand at making some. I love this website!!!! I get exposed to new food and baking things all the time.
This site is truly unique, so many talented wonderful people from all over the world.
Here is a link for Making Quark - the only one of 4 cheesemaking supply places I have dealt with that mentioned it.
I have purchased a few items from them and just love Ricki's newsletter.