The Inside the Jewish Bakery Challenge -- Semester One (December, 2011 - March 2012)
Hi, everyone! It's almost time to start the Inside the Jewish Bakery challenge!
We'll be baking nearly every recipe found in the wonderful "Inside the Jewish Bakery" by TFLs very own Stanley Ginsberg and Norman Berg. Not only will we get a chance to bake all the recipes -- we'll get to eat all the recipes! I can't wait!
It turns out that this fabulous book has enough recipes to keep us occupied for over a year. So, I've broken it up into 6 "semesters" of approximately 15 recipes each, spanning about three and a half months each time. Semester One begins on December 3 of this year, with the following lineup:
Item | Page number | Date assigned | Posts allowed until this date | ||||
1-2-3 dough (Use in Mohn Bars, p. 234) | 213 / 234 | 12/3/2011 | 12/10/2011 | ||||
Lace Cookies (Florentines) | 231 | 12/10/2011 | 12/17/2011 | ||||
Honey Whole Wheat Challah | 31 | 12/17/2011 | 12/24/2011 | ||||
Almond Buns | 152 | 12/24/2011 | 12/31/2011 | ||||
Honey Cake | 175 | 12/31/2011 | 1/7/2012 | ||||
Polish Potato Bread | 86 | 1/7/2012 | 1/14/2012 | ||||
Closed pockets | 143 | 1/14/2012 | 1/21/2012 | ||||
Onion Rolls | 114 | 1/21/2012 | 1/28/2012 | ||||
Mandelbroyt | 241 | 1/28/2012 | 2/4/2012 | ||||
Sour Cream Coffee Cake | 181 | 2/4/2012 | 2/11/2012 | ||||
Black and white cookies | 221 | 2/11/2012 | 2/18/2012 | ||||
100 percent cream cheese cheesecake | 203 | 2/18/2012 | 2/25/2012 | ||||
Sweet Egg Dough (for buns) | 109 | 2/25/2012 | 3/3/2012 | ||||
Bialys | 123 | 3/3/2012 | 3/10/2012 | ||||
Loaf Babka | 164 | 3/10/2012 | 3/17/2012 |
I'll start off each item with a post or or near the assignment date for that item, and then the comments section of this blog will be open for anyone to post their experience. To keep us all more or less together, I ask that if you're going to participate, that you post your comments by no later than seven days after the original assignment date (which happens to be, also, the first day of the next item on the list).
There has been tremendous interest in this challenge, which is so exciting. I've decided to not keep close track of who is signed up or not -- you all know who you are, chime in as you please. If you miss a week -- or two, or three -- join back in. All are welcome. I'm hoping that the semester format will help the task seem more manageable -- there's a lot of ground to cover in this book!
I'm looking forward to the adventure with you all. And until then -- Happy Thanksgiving!
Kendra
Comments
LoydB,
Your summarization matches my experience as well. Nice looking and tasty bars tho'!
Linda
It is requiring serious willpower not to just grab the pan and a quart of milk and have at it!
I am too kitchen challanged (its, its usual disaster area self) at the moment, along with trying to do other things in the house like move some furniture etc. to go into the challange, but looking at all the lovely bars, certainly will try this as soon as possible.
Looking at the dough in the recipe, I think it would work nicely for making my currant tarts into a bar! And I can see it with a prune filling like mentioned above, so it looks a lovely versatile recipe and worth the work of producing it! I will definitely try the bars as is though first before playing with other fillings.
i've baked w/ poppy filling/paste/butter before, actually a lot, and just by tasting the filling my spontaneous thought is that it lacks substance. will see tomorrow when i bake the whole thing if i'm pleasantly surprised after all.
German Foodie,
I had the same thoughts and so added another tablespoon of apricot jam to the filling. I still was not impressed with the filling until...... I put it all together. The combination of shortbread, filling, streusal topping and a light drizzle of confectionary sugar icing was excellent.
Linda
please cast your votes for ITJB as 2011's best new Kosher Cookbook at http://www.joyofkosher.com/nomination-category/best-new-kosher-cookbook/
btw, love the posts and photos and am so pleased that this first recipe is meeting/exceeding expectations!
I'll continue to follow the challenge with great interest.
Stan
I'm vote #2. I wonder who was #1?
cheers,
gary
ITJB just showed up on the site this morning ....
I'm not Jewish and Kosher is not fully understood by me, but any cookbook that can make you laugh, make you cry and make you say I remember doing this with my family members, or think of things that we do with family that are traditions, is as far as I'm concerned the best cookbook period.
I love my copy, still haven't read it the second time, but will. I want to try out the recipes and find the ones I like the best and then they will become traditional in my house. So while I may not be Jewish, some of the traditional foods will continue being made.
BTW I'm number 8
now that I've actually (happily) baked something from the book, I'd like to add a review on Amazon. I'm sure I'm not alone. Stan could you point us in the right direction? Thanks, Bonni
http://www.amazon.com/Inside-Jewish-Bakery-Recipes-Memories/product-reviews/1933822236/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
Click on "Creat Your Own Review"
Hi there
I'm a bit confused - how does signing up for the challenge work? and how does the correspondence work? Do we continuously post and comment under this single ever-growing thread? Or is there another web link that I've missed? Or do we pm Urchina?
Sorry - I'm a bit new to the challenge protocol!!
Thanks
Lisa
seems to be it. it IS somewhat tedious, i agree, but on this platform i wouldn't know, either, how else to do it.
You might want to change your "Comment Viewing options" date to newest first, so that you see the new posts at the top of the thread. You can find the option to make the change at the bottom of the thread, just above where you post a comment.
Carlene
call it ITJB Challenge 2 or some such ....
Lisa,
To answer your questions:
1. Signing up is simple. You just say to yourself "Hey, I'm going to bake those recipes and share my experiences!" Then you do that. You can come in and out of the challenge at any time -- I'm not keeping track.
2. For now, this is the thread to post on. I'm new to this process as well. It will (likely) get a bit unwieldy. We'll just keep plugging away. If anything changes, I'll let you know.
Thanks for joining us, and bake on!
Kendra
How about a new thread for each exercise.
Example:
ItJB Challenge Mohn Bars for posting images and comments on the first exercise
ItJB Challenge Lace Cookies for posting images and comments on the secone exercise
Etc.
Just a thought .........................
I will post some more in-depth musings on my personal blog. While I'm still skeptical regarding the overall flavor profile, my Turkish-born husband thought these were great. Personally, I love the pastry base (1-2-3), but am still unsure about the poppyseed filling. I think next time I shall do what I always do w/ poppyseed: use milk instead of water and just "steep" the poppyseed rather than cooking it. I am also going to add some lemon flavor - just a hint - to give it more depth. Other than that, these are "garnicht schlecht". :)
I do not think your "concrete" problem had anything to do with the whole wheat pastry flour. Pastry flour, whether whole wheat or regular, has low protein, and that is what is required for this dough. I substituted 70 g of the flour with whole pastry flour - for a little healthier option. Mine turned out just fine.
The problem will be your oven temperature that is so way off.
Karin
Hello Kendra
Thank you, that helps!
OK (*assuming novice-warrior-of-the-kitchen pose*), I hereby sign up to bake those recipes and share my experiences ! Amazon tells me my book should arrive around the 13th, woo hoo. So my first post will be a smattering early (unless I corrupt an innocent law-abiding baker into alleged copyright violation - *evil grin*) ;-)
Oh - and the advice about changing the viewing options to 'Newest first' (and collapsed thread) - that makes all the difference. Now we're in business :-)
Splendido
Lisa
Hi, everyone. I have news about how we're going to post for this challenge. Thanks to FloydM, we now have a "Challenges" forum in which to post for our ITJB challenge (and any other book or recipe challenges people dream up). I've taken the advice of several folks here and decided to create a separate thread for each of the weekly challenge assignments. So it should be easier to move in and out of the challenge now, and also easier to see just the parts you want to see, instead of the whole thing.
The first week's entries (Mohn Bars with 1-2-3 dough) will be kept here on my blog for simplicity, but Weeks 2 - 90 (or so) will each have their own forum topic/thread in the Challenges forum. Please move all postings starting tomorrow (for Florentines / lace cookies) over there.
The location of the challenges forum is: Forums > General > Challenges
You'll see the ITJB, Week 2, Florentines, listed there, along with a re-post of the first semester's schedule.
Thanks to all who suggested this approach, and thanks to all who are baking. I'll get my Mohn bars photos posted soon....
Bake on!
Kendra
OK, so Saturday I mixed up the dough, and yesterday the filling and topping. I really enjoy the sweet poppy seed flavor. I am not that enamored of the shortbread. The issue is not with this shortbread, just shortbreads in general.
This exercise is a good teaching tool. Breaking the dough has an amazing effect, one much more effective than I would have imagined. I learned that poppy seeds are very oily. And I learned that streusel is easier to make than I thought.
I took no pics, as mine turned out looking like the others'. As to the over all goodness, I'll be giving some to a neighbor and some to my sister for evaluation. These are not at all bad, but as mentioned above, the cookie base is not a favorite of mine. I'm not qualified to judge pecan pies either since I don't much care for them.
//edit: I meant to ask, how does one pronounce mohn? ~gt
cheers,
gary
The "o" in Mohn (= poppy) is pronounced pretty much like the long "o" in "home", as opposed to the short "o" in "rock" The "h" after a vowel lengthens the vowel.
Karin
is pronounced like the first syllable of "money"
Stan
Hmm. I grew up around Yiddish and Hebrew speakers and it was always pronounced as a short 'aw' sound. As in to rhyme with the French 'bonne' or 'comme'. Imagine the word 'born', but shortened to remove any trace of the 'r', so it sounds more like 'bohn'. In Hebrew, it's a vowel sound written as a vav with a dot on top. NOT the diphthong 'oh' (o + oo, which would make it sound like 'moan'), but a monophthong which is kind of an elision of both sounds (mohn).
Actually it's closer to "mawn" with an abbreviated "w", although I've also heard it as "moon," with a shortened "oo" ... depends where in Eastern Europe your ancestors came from. Mine came from Belarus, Ukraine and Poland. I understood their Yiddish, but the Yiddish spoken by the Hungarian Satmar hasidim is completely incomprehensible, and the Lithuanian (Litvak) and Austrian (Galitzianer) dialects aren't much better. Point being: each region had its own accent, pronunciation and vocabulary. Confusing, right? But what fun is simple when complicated is so much more interesting!
Stan
Well, there appears to be the same differences of opinion regarding "mohn" as there are for how to pronounce "pecan". Those differences are, of course moot, as my pronunciation is the correct pronunciation. :D
I will allow these variations to dance on my tongue until one or another takes up residence. Thanks to each of you.
gary
Guys, I don't want to argue with you, but whether incorporated into Yiddish or not - " Mohn" is a German word, and pronouncing it with a short "o" is for me as a German just weird.
Karin
but the difference in pronunciation reflects the historical evolution of Yiddish as a separate language - much like the difference in the way Brits and Americans pronounce the words "schedule," "laboratory" and a host of others. Yiddish evolved in Poland and Russia, by German-speaking Jews who were expelled in the aftermath of the Reformation, just as American English evolved from the King's English.
In the end it's just poppy seed. :) I've spent some time studying comparative linguistics for my own amusement, and Yiddish, just like Dutch, is fascinating when compared to German.
The "h" elongates the vowel.
So, I finally uploaded the pictures of the Mohn bars I made for this bake. I think these have serious potential. We liked how the poppy-seed topping almost became a toffee during the baking process, and the flavor profile is promising. However, I think we got rancid poppyseeds because they were very bitter. I'm not sure how to source poppy seeds -- this recipe calls for a lot and I have limited options for purchasing them in bulk. We'll see if any of our local health-food stores sell them, refrigerated, in bulk.
I can say that the 1-2-3 dough was fantastic. We loved it. I'd never "broken" dough before and that was an experience in and of itself -- a good one. We'll definitely keep the 1-2-3 dough in rotation. I'm thinking of using it as a base for raspberry-streusel-bars.
Here's the photo of the Mohn bars. Will work on making the streusel topping less "giant clump of stuff" next time:
I've been happy with the poppy seeds I got from www.myspicesage.com for $8.50/lb. Everything I've ever gotten from them has been fresh.
workaround, buy poppy BUTTER. I just got a can from "American Almond" - you just work in the flavoring agents, that's it. I know that's not "proper", but nobody doing this commercially would grind poppy by hand. :)
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