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forever18

DLX or Bosch

I'm new to this forum and a beginner bread maker. I am looking for a mixer and after countless hours of research I have narrowed it down to the Electrolux DLX or Bosch Universal plus, I think.

I will be using the mixer to make bread, cakes and frosting probably equally. I do sometimes make single recipes and though I know the DLX comes with a smaller plastic bowl I am wondering if it is possible to make a single cake mix or batch of frosting in the stainless bowl? I make a frosting that requires the addition of very hot syrup and am concerned about using the plastic bowl for that.

I'm just not sure at all which way to go and am looking for some guidance. Though I just started making bread I am loving it and want something that can grow with me but also handle the smaller jobs as I make a lot of cupcakes!

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

Pam

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holds99

Pam,

I  bake mostly bread in fairly large batches, 9 to 10 lbs. of dough, a couple of times each week.  I have an old Hobart manufactured Kitchen Aid, which I have had and used regularly for 20 or so years before purchasing the DLX.  The bowl of the Kitchen Aid was too small for the size batches of bread that I wanted to mix.  A couple of years ago I purchased the DLX (Electolux DLX Attendent).  The DLX  is a terrific machine for mixing bread and can accomodate 10 lbs. of dough.  I have never used the plastic bowl that came with the DLX but would imagine that it will work fine for mixing cakes, including the hot syrup and frosting.  I don't think the DLX metal bowl and mixing device would be the best mixer for cakes and cup cakes.  That being said, if you bake mostly cakes you make want to seriously consider the Bosch Universal Plus.  I recall there being several blog posts of both the DLX and the Bosch on TFL.  I would suggest using the search box/function on TFL and see if you can find a comparison/review of the difference between DLX and Bosch.  I do know that numerous bakers on TFL use the Bosch and like it very much. 

FWIW.  The selection of a mixer should depend on the application.  You indicated that you make cup cakes and cakes.  If you want to use one mixer without have to switch between a plastic and metal bowl then the Bosch may be the best mixer for your needs.  As I recall the Bosch will accomodate up to 8 quarts of dough and gets very high approval ratings.  Both the Bosch and the DLX are fairly expensive, so try searching TFL to see if you can find some comparisons of the two mixers.  As for the Kitchen Aid, my personal belief is that Kitchen Aid doesn't have the quality that it once had and I wouldn't purchase a Kitchen Aid---too many complaints about the quality of the "new" Kitchen Aids.

Howard

 

 

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loydb

DLX all the way. I've still got a KA that I use for grinding meat and whipping cream, but the DLX knocks it out of the park on dough.

 

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FaithHope

I second the motion!!  I've had mine for about 2 years now and LOVE, LOVE, LOVE IT!!  I've had 2 top end KA (burned out the motor in the "new" one), and the DLX smokes um'!!  I do cookies, cakes, bread, everything!!!  It is soooo super sweet, I will never go back to anything else!!  My best friend just bought one too, and LOVES it!

We actually worked on a Bosch that her mother-in-law had, it was an older model, but the same concept.  I know there are Bosch lovers out there too, but in my humble opinion NOTHING compares to the DLX!  The DLX plastic bowl does work with the beaters in the middle and it works great, but to have the metal bowl with the free swinging arm, (vs. the middle with the Bosch) is so awesome!  It's WAY easier to clean, and by swinging it, it gets everything mixed well.  Plus you can bring it out just a touch and tighten the lock so it just mixes perfectly!  I love it!!  LOVE, LOVE, LOVE, it! ;)  I do all my bread doughs with the roller, bagels, artisan, everything, and it works great!  Even with really tough dough!!

You can do cake mix in the metal bowl, but the plastic bowl works well too!  I've made meringe in the plastic bowl with hot syurp and had no problems with it either!  It's a pretty heavy duty plastic!  My friends mother-in-law has had to replace the plastic bowl of her mixer, I don't think you'd EVER have to replace the DLX bowl.  Plus the speed factor, timer, are great additions, you can be very percise!  I use it all week long, for small and big jobs.  TOTALLY WORTH THE $$!

Anyways, I love mine, I'm sure you would love it too!

;)  Faith

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Emelye

I've had a DLX N28 since last April and I'm glad I got it.  It hasn't failed me yet and I've run everything from bagel to focaccia to chocolate cookie doughs through it using the metal bowl (roller/scraper then switching to the hook) and the whisk bowl for quickbreads, cakes and frostings.  I initially got the DLX because I was baking to sell at a local consignment store.  I made 9 to 10 lb of dough at a time.  I also find success when making 2 loaves at a time.  I just made Italian bread using Peter Reinthart's formula from the Bread Bakler's Apprentice, a couple ounces more than 2¼ lbs of dough.

My only criticism is the printing on the chrome knobs is barely visible to my eyes, making the timer practically worthless.  The speed dial is OK but I would much rather have had numbers on it instead of wedges.  OK, another criticism is the high cost of some of the accessories but then again, good quality is never cheap.  I'm certain that this will be the last mixer I ever need to buy in my lifetime.

So I use a separate timer and go by feel for the speed.  All in all I'm quite happy.  If you do get a DLX by all means read the posts in this forum about how to use it, putting the liquids in first, for instance, and then the flour/drygoods, opposite of what you'd do with a planetary mixer.

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hanseata

I bake bread semi-professional (twice a week for a natural food store) in my home kitchen. I have a 20-quart Hobart for larger batches of breads, and a 7-qt. Cuisinart for pre-doughs and up to 2 regular breads.

My Cuisinart was on it's last leg, after very heavy use and a fall from the counter, and I needed a replacement. I looked at lots of reviews and, finally, decided to buy a Bosch Universal Plus. I had great expectations (having worked really well with a smaller Bosch in Germany), but I was very disappointed.

The dough hook is attached to a column in the middle of the bowl, and has no collar to protect it from "crawling" dough. I made three different bread doughs, white and wholegrain, one with high hydration (Pain a l'Ancienne), this and another, less sticky one, crawled right up the column, and into the dough hook insert. (The batches were for 1 - 4 regular breads).

Emptying the mixer bowl with its middle column was a pain in butt, time consuming, because you can't easily scrape the bottom and the column down. And, of course, after each batch, I had to take everything apart to clean it because of the dough crawling problem!

This frustrated and annoyed me so much, that I returned the Bosch the next day, and exchanged it for another 7-qt. Cuisinart.

Karin

 

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forever18

I've finally decided on the DLX. I saw on the Pleasant Hill Grain site that it now comes with a cake beater whisk.

Thank you all so much for taking time to help me. I appreciate it so much. I have been going back and forth with this forever. I'm going to place my order before I change my mind again! Hopefully it will be here before Thanksgiving.

Thanks again and I'm looking forward to learning all about bread making here, this is a wonderful site! I've already learned so much.

Pam

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loydb

Remember, though, to put the liquid in first and you'll be much happier.

 

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FaithHope

Pleasant Hills is where I got mine too!  You are going to love it!!  It's so awesome!!  Just remember, wet ingred. FIRST!!  Then just sprinkle in your dry a little at a time when using the roller!  You'll get the hang of it!  Took me a bit to get used to after using a KA for so long, but I'm never going back!

So excited for you!!  Just made bagles today, so fun!! ;)

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Janetcook

You will be pleased with Pleasant Hill.  Great service and even after the sale.

:-)

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ohiord

I have been using a DLX for close to 15 years.  I concur with all the positive comments.  It is a good machine - I mostly use it for bread and cookies.  It saves me so much time and effort.   My only reservation about it is that it is difficult to get repairs or parts for it.  I have  a problem with motor speed and my local appliance repair shop won't even look at it. Too unfamiliar, the guy said.  An internet search revealed only one place in the US that does repairs and it is in New Jersey.  So if I want them to take a look at it I have to send it to them.  If you have a DLX, you know how heavy it is--I can't imagine how much it will cost to ship it two ways.  So for the time being, I am living with the problem.

Does anyone else have any experience with DLX repairs?

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breadman_nz

I live in New Zealand, and found this site to be excellent in terms of advice and sending me the part I needed to repair my DLX (an N22 Assistent - a slightly older model, but same essential bits):

http://magicmillusa.com/

I think it's the New Jersey site you reference?

On my machine too, the speed control knob wasn't working right - it  wouldn't drop to low speed properly. A 10 minute job with a torq screwdriver to replace the logic board and I was back in business.

The DLX is actually a fairly basic yet robust machine. It's not hard to fix yourself, with a bit of advice and the correct part(s) supplied*.

 

* YMMV. I did pull apart and fully restore a Hobart N50 without the service manual.

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Janetcook

Pam,

 I sent you a private message but you won't know unless you check back on this page - auto. email messages aren't sent when private messages are sent but you will get one that I write here...so I am writing to let you know to check your message box :-)  I know you are new here and may not know about this hence my note here.

Janet