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New to Homemade Bread ... Crumbly Bread?

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Gilliss10

New to Homemade Bread ... Crumbly Bread?

Hello,

I just started making homemade bread last weekend. Our preist came over and taught us how to make a basic loaf. I grew up with my mother always making bread in a bread machine. The aroma that would fill our home was almost captivating! Anyway ... I'm having fun with it. I've made 4 loaves so far and each has turned out wonderful. I even braided a few. In the last 2 loaves I made I put a little honey in it ... talk about yum!

I've got a question though ... How can I keep my bread from becoming to crumbly? I do not want to buy store bought bread anymore. But, in order to do that I cannot have my loaves be crumbly. Primarily because my husband cannot get crumbs all over his suit at work. Plus, it leaves a bit of a mess.

I use 4 cups white flour, 1 cup whole wheat flour, 2 1/2 cups water, 2 tsp yeast, and 2 tsp salt. (I'm writting this from memory...but I'm sure this is pretty close to the actual recipe I've been using). :-)

 

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sdorunga1

I'm fairly new to baking(bread), but what I would recommend baking for around 40 mins at 180C if it's white bread, which for me fully bakes the bread while leaving the crust perfectly soft, which would leave a lot less crumbs. About the actual crumb of the bread, that depends on how your dough develops, i think it helps if you add no fat to the dough, and the airirer the bread(coupled with fully developed dough), the more i think the bread won't crumble into a thousand pieces. Hope that helps:D

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richkaimd

I wish I knew what "crumbly bread" means.  I'm going to guess that what's happening is that you're not kneading the dough enough.  The earliest days for a newbie are filled with lots of mistakes.  Make them, learn from them, and move on, I say!  I've been baking bread for over thirty years.  At the beginning, I followed recipes in popular cookbooks.  If I were to start now, and knowing my own learning style, I'd combine a lot of reading (The Fresh Loaf and DiMuzio's little text he named Breadbaking) with watching all the on-line videos I could find on Youtube (there are tons of them; start by searching for "bread baking" or "bread making" or "bread kneading" or "loaf forming") and with trying to improve on the last loaves I've made. 

Getting back to insufficient kneading of your dough, which I'm guessing may be your problem:  read about making a "gluten window" on this site (use the search function on the left hand column of the home page) and find the same thing on Youtube.

Hang in there!  Pay attention to your mistakes and learn from them.  Keep asking us questions.

Finally, see if you can find a local person who will mentor you.  You might be able to do that through this website by mentioning where you bake.

 

 

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SouthSam7

Crumbly definition:

crum·ble [kruhm-buhl] Show IPA verb (used with object), crum·bled, crum·bling. 1. to break into small fragments or crumbs. verb (used without object), crum·bled, crum·bling. 2. to fall into small pieces; break or part into small fragments. 3. to decay or disintegrate gradually: The ancient walls had crumbled. noun 4. a crumbly or crumbled substance. 5. crumbles, bits of crisp bacon, bread, etc., added to other foods, especially as a topping. 6. British Dialect . crumb; particle; fragment.   
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Chuck

Is the bread "crumbly" as soon as you take it out of the oven? Or is it okay for the first day or two and only later starts to fall apart?

How many crumbs are there on your breadboard when you slice the bread? And how many crumbs are there on your knife after you slice the bread? Also, what kind of knife do you use for slicing?

Is crumb production closely associated with trying to bite through a too-thick-and-hard crust? Or is it not really related to the crust?

What temperature do you set your oven to? And how long do you bake your bread?

Is there something about the raw dough that already suggests it will make crumbly bread? Or does the dough seem to hold together just fine and the bread being crumbly is a surprise?


I suspect this problem has something to do with technique (in other words I'm doubtful it will be fixed by changing the recipe). Nevertheless, as an experiment I'd try finding a recipe that includes an egg, as once it's baked the whipped egg might help hold the bread together.

 

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Mini Oven

That would do it.  The cooler temperatures there will make the bread crumbly also known as staling.  

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HeidiH

Gluten can either be made by kneading or time.  If you think you are unlikely to knead enough to develop gluten fully and don't have a strong stand mixer, try one of the long-rise no-knead bread recipes abounding on the web.  No-knead is great for beginners.

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JoeV

I don't think she's doing anything incorrectly, except maybe for calling crumbs "crumbly." If you eat bread, there will be bread crumbs, it's just the way it is. The older a loaf of bread gets, the drier it will become and the more bread crumbs you will encounter. Your recipe is basically an artisan bread with no fat in it, so it will dry/stale faster because of this.  Find a recipe with butter or oil in it, and you'll notice a longer shelf life with fewer crumbs, but even with fat it will eventually stale.  Based on your recipe, I would add either 3T (1 oz.) of olive oil or 3T (1.5 oz.) of melted butter without changing anything else. Mix either of these with your water then proceed as usual. You might have to add a tad more flour if the dough sticks to the bottom of the mixer bowl, but I would be surprised if that happened at all. As for your hubby, maybe send a bib with his lunch or tell him to take his jacket off when eating a sandwich.

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thomaschacon75

If you eat bread, there will be crumbs.

We need to immortalize that as the FTL bumper sticker.

Agree with JoeV, you need added fat for a less crumbly crust.

If your crumb is crumbly, however, that is only to be expected, unless and until you can modify the laws of the universe.