Submitted by Halperinr on July 24, 2010 - 2:24am

conversions

All these breads sound wonderful, but being an amateur bread baker I can't use most of them because of the "technical"

measurements and directions (in grams, "hydration", etc) I would appreciate a conversion tool so as a home baker

I could understand and use normal kitchen measuremts like ounces, cups, Tbs, tsp, etc

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Technical measures

Actually, those 'technical measurements' like grams are much easier than our confounding system of cups and ounces (which must be differentiated by liquid or solid measure).  You don't need to gain any 'technical' proficiency, all you need is to invest less than $40 in a digital scale (most post in both kilograms/grams and pounds/ounces).

Then you simply weight ingredients.  It couldn't get much easier.

The problem with measuring in scoops is that - especially for your flour measures - you are going to get inconsistent results unless you are lucky enough to always scoop the same weight of flour per cup - something that's much more difficult to accomplish than weighing flour on a scale.

Bottom line: the reason most TFL members post recipes in grams is not because we're so technically sophisticated but because it's the simplest way to achieve consistent results in baking breads.

Larry

 

We're all amateurs

Hi Halperinr,

Except for a few, we're all amateur bread bakers here.  We've just learned (the hard way) that measuring by volume (cups) often winds up with inaccurate amounts and inconsistent results. 

Your cup of flour could contain as much as an ounce or two more - or less - than mine.  Susan of Wild Yeast did an experiment on weighing flour, which  you should read at this link

There are many benefits of scaling, but if you don't want the accuracy that measuring by weight gives, you can find many online conversions sites by doing a Google search.  Just use the terms "weight to volume" and you'll have a long list to choose from.  I can't vouch how accurate any are, which is why I'm not providng a link.

I do hope you'll consider getting a digital scale and using it, because it will make a world of difference in your baking.

Volume <=> weight conversion table

Rose Levy Beranbaum's _The Bread Bible_ has an extensive volume <=> weight conversion table in an appendix, with both metric and US ANSI weights.  You might want to borrow that book from the library and take a look at the table.

One point though is that just as there are many ways to measure ingredients by volume, there is no agreement among bakers and food scientists on exact volume <=> weight conversions.  Rose Levy worked with food scientists at the US Dept of Agriculture to build her table (being Rose Levy I am sure she just picked up the phone and called the Secretary of Agriculture to get started), but it differs from many other, equally well sourced conversion tables out there.

sPh

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Take the leap and buy a scale!

When I first started baking I always used cups, teaspoons, etc. I finally broke down and bought a cheap scale and quickly fell in love with how much easier it is to weigh ingredients in grams than try to measure cups, etc. My cheap scale finally quit on me in the middle of a recipe and husband was dispatched on the double to get another one. We ended up with a really nice OXO scale that I love. It measures in ounces and grams. I think once you try it you'll never look back =).

OK, but keep in mind what the poster asked for

While I am sure this advice is well-meant (and I too use a scale 98% of the time), let's keep in mind that the original poster specifically asked for help with conversions because she did not feel comfortable measuring with weights.  Let's not scare off an aspiring artisan bread baker by being dogmatic to initial questions ;-)

sPh

weight measuring

This information about weights versus volume is what I have been needing. I always use the cup, etc measure and have not had any problems over many years. However, I know from all the books and the information at this site that weighing is certainly the thing to do for consistency. I have Peter Reinhart's book in which he gives the coversions, but it is from cups to ounces, not grams. So, another stumbling block. Any more discussion will be appreciated, I will try the suggestions already mentioned. I do have a good scale, but am not sure if it weighs in grams. I only weigh the dough for the loaves.

Jean P.

A few conversions

Here are a few conversions from RLB's chart to get started:

Flour (= 1 cup measured dip-and-sweep)

All purpose:  5 oz   142 g

Bread flour:  5.5 oz   156 g

Whole wheat:  5.3 oz  150 g

 

Granulated sugar:  1 cup = 7 oz  200 g

Butter:  1 cup = 8 oz  227 g

Water:  1 cup = 8.3 oz  238 g

(unless you are measuring gallons of water there isn't much difference between oz volume and oz weight do I don't usually bother with adjusting.  The same is not true of other fluids however, particularly milk)

Milk:  1 cup = 8.5 oz 242 g

Salt:  1 tsp = 5.7 g

In general, 1 oz (weight) = 28.4 g

HTH.  As noted I would suggest getting a copy of RLB's _The Bread Bible_ (note there are two popular books in print with that title) and checking out the whole table and the chapters on measuring.

sPh

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RE: conversions

Be careful, "conversions" are probably not as accurate as they seem.

Problems include:

 o direction sometimes matters - weight->volume may work differently from volume->weight

 o volume measurements vary dramatically with the size of the measuring cup - what works "just right" with a 1-cup measurer will usually be way off with a 2-cup measurer

 o in reality conversions vary with conditions - particularly flour, is it "sifted" or "not sifted"? are you at sea level or at 5000 feet? is the whole wheat flour "fine grind" or "regular grind"?

 o conversions are different for different people - a "cup" of flour may be 142 grams for one person, but 137 grams for another, and 146 grams for another

Conversion tables make it seem like things are more known and accurate than they really are. Using conversions can be sorta like using a rubber slide rule (remember those?-).

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FWIW - Invest in a scale

Some of the terms used on this site (and other bread baking sites) and in bread books may be unfamiliar to you at first, but scaling/weighing ingredients will avoid frustration and help you get consistant results. If you think you're going to pursue home baking you really need a way to measure accurately.   Using volume measurements (cups, spoons, etc.) won't give you the level of accuracy you need.   One of the main advantages of scaling/weighing your ingredients is you get exact same amount of ingredient each time if you weigh it accurately.  For the most part we're all using the same 4 ingredients---water, flour, leavening and salt. The key to consistent results is accurate measurements. 

Another reason for scaling/weighing your ingredients is that it allows you to easily and quickly increase or decrease the volume of dough in a recipe/formula through multiplication of the individual ingredient weights. 

Also, if and/or when you buy a scale get one that gives weight in both OZ (ounces) and KG (kilograms) and make sure it will weigh at least 5 lbs of ingredients.  I have a Salter Electronic Aquatronic that works great, which, as I recall, costs about $30.00 and will weigh up to 12 lbs and has buttons for ML/FL.OZ, KG/LB.  There are many good scales out there.  Google "kitchen scales" and see what you come up with.

Good luck with your baking---and scaling.

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I couldn't agree more

with everyone here who suggests the use of a scale.  I take pains to convert the volume measurements to grams by referring to my conversion tables that I download from the internet.   TodayI found an error in one of the charts where I'm told 1 cup wholewheat flour is equiv. to 8.5 ounces =156 grms.    When I crossed-checked 8.5 ounces on my iPhone converter app. it shows me 8.5 oz is equiv. to 240 grms.  I was totally confused.  I tend to avoid recipes using volume measurements.  I grew up with imperial measurements using lbs and ozs, feet and inches etc.  but when it comes to baking, I'm all for metric!!

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Approx.

Hi

28.4g to 1oz; so 8.5oz = 240g and a very very tiny bit [241.4].

Here in the UK metric is slowly finding acceptance; quite bizarrely!

I first went to school before the 1960s were out, and I was taught the metric system even back then.   I've learnt to work imperial just so I can convert, but to me it's very old-fashioned and difficult.   Why work in multiples of 14, or 16 when you can use a system based on 10, 100, 1000 etc?   The relationship to bakers % becomes all the more obvious.

Each to their own, of course, but volume measuring would be enough to stop me from baking.   I would never dream of trying to convert to weight and hoping to be accurate.   But if others have success, that's great.

Best advice in this post?   Buy scales; couldn't agree more, especially with everything that Larry wrote!

Best wishes

Andy

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Schooling in the 60's

I  struggled with the metric system esp for measurements when it was first used and I still do to this day, I can easily relate to the size of a king sized/queen sized/double bed but I wouldn't know what it would be in cms.  However, I remember how confusing it was for  Britain when their currency first turned metric in 1971.

I only try to convert the recipe because it was given to me by another member of TFL  Normally I would just avoid using a recipe in volume measures. I'm also fine with measuring spoons for small quantities and there little room for error but I find it difficult to work with cups.  I don't like metric but when it comes to cooking, I'm all for it! 

Judy

Here's a Chart

I developed a couple of charts to help with this. One is weight to volume and the other is a sourdough starter maintenance chart. These have been researched from a variety of sources and I find them useful.

Weight to Volume Measurements

Sourdough Starter Maintenance Guide:

 

 

 

Digitgal scale a must

Have been seriously baking for about 6 months.  I have only been getting consistant results since I went to an OXO scale about a month ago.  It has an automatic tare and can measure in grams and ounces (lbs.) Now, I can vary my retardation times, amount of water spray, etc., and have an idea of which variable is effecting my breads. (SD)  Right now it takes about 43-44 hours to have a loaf(s) done.  I got mine at Bed,Bath & Beyond for ~ $50.  Best investment ever.

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Digital scale a must - me too

Early on I switched to measuring by weights (partly because of my previous experience taking a cooking class from a professional baker who insisted on using a scale for absolutely everything). But because it was a little bit cheaper, I used a "spring" scale rather than a digital scale to make my one small loaf at a time.

After several months of "bang head here", I realized that with my small batches the normal spring scale margin of error (which didn't seem like much:-) was easily causing my hydration level to vary from 65% to 80% without me even knowing it.

So I replaced my spring scale with a digital scale, and suddenly all the recipes and techniques started working consistently. Now I just wish I could "get back" those several wasted months trying to use a too-cheap scale that caused the same variability problems as volume measurements.

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