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IanSR

Supplies from Taiwan

Hello everyone.


 


Brilliant website. I have been baking for just over a year, and like any hobby, it requires practice. I liive between the UK and Taiwan. In the UK, supplies or ingredients are easy as everything is clearly marked as for what purpose the baking supply is for, but here in Taiwan, it s difficult, not the language, but the supplies. I seem to find mostly 'all in one' ingredients, especially the flour.


I am after good quality flour. In the UK I used Caudwell's Flour, Rowsley, Derbyshire.


Does anyone know of some good baking suppliers in Taiwan. I live about 45 mins from Tainan. Or 90 mins from koahsiung.


 


So sorry for being a nusience.


 


Very best, and kind regards


Ian

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Dragonbones

Hi Ian, it's not a nuisance at all! :)  Where exactly are you located? I can set you up with some contact info of DIY baking supply shops near you. http://forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.php?p=1127688#p1127688 If you need help transliterating any of those addresses or don't see your location's name in Romanization just let me know where you are and I'll find it on the list in Chinese for you.


There are actually a lot in Taiwan but the info is not easy to find for foreigners who don't speak Chinese. Of course, there's more choice if you head into a larger city near you than out in the countryside.


 If I can be of any further help finding baking stuff in Taiwan please don't hesitate to ask.

IanSR's picture
IanSR

Thanks for your speedy reply. I live in Shin Ying, and lucky for me I am married to a a Taiwanese, so she doesn't mind translating.


Going to Carrefour is pretty rubbish, and would love to get my hands on the real deal!


Again, thanks for the reply. My wife is just checking the link that's in your reply.


 


Best regards


Ian

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Dragonbones

Mail order is also an option in Taiwan, with your wife's help, and as you probably know, courier delivery is dirt cheap here. Someone (chiaoapple?) sent me a link to an online baking supply store in Taiwan long ago, but since I have good stores nearby (in Taibei) I have misplaced the link. But you can ask your wife to run a search on online sites like Ruten (http://www.ruten.com.tw/ lu4tian1, in pinyin) for whatever you need.  


 


EDIT: just found that other link for mail-order supply courtesy of chiaoapple: http://miaolin.myweb.hinet.net/

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IanSR

Thanks for the links. From your expertise, what company produces really good quality flour/ In the UK, I always used Caudwell and that always gave excellent results.


 


Again, thanks for your kind help.


 


Best regards


Ian

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Dragonbones

If cost isn't an object,


then the Japanese flours may be higher quality and certainly have more variety, but I haven't had any complaints about the bulk flour available at local DIY baking shops; they normally carry low (pastry & cake), medium (all-purpose & bread) and high gluten (bagel) varieties plus whole rye and whole wheat. For bread I usually use the medium, or medium with a bit of the high added. At one shop they said the flour brand is Luotuo (camel), and a bystander overhearing this told me that that is Taiwan's best brand of flour. I have no idea whether that's true or not, but it works fine for me. The other shop I go to sells a different brand, I can't recall what because they get it in huge sacks then divvy it up, and I've also had no complaints about it.


The main thing to consider in Taiwan is the heat and humidity, which means that whole grain flours, wheat germ and seeds and nuts go off very quickly and should best be purchased in small amounts and refrigerated. I also purchase flour in relatively small amounts, and keep it tightly sealed to avoid bug infestations.

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chiaoapple

here's the link to a great flour supplier --


http://tw.user.bid.yahoo.com/tw/user/danny_0305


 


i've lived in the States, where i used King Arthur, and no offense to KA, but the variety of flour you can get in Taiwan (mostly imported from Japan) is just amazing. 


Have fun browsing!

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Yippee

That's what I thought (and still think so) when I first found out you've had access to such a great variety of Japanese flours that I can't get my hands on.


 


Yippee

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Taike

Here's another supplier in Taipei that's useful.  I've been getting Bob's Red Mill Spelt and German rye flour from them for a while now.  They are on Hoping E. Rd. 


http://www.akebono.com.tw/importfood/body_importfood05.html


One thing I've never been able to find in stores in Taipei are pizza stones.  Even though some are still made here. 

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Dragonbones

Hi, I haven't found pizza stones either, but you can buy tiles at flooring shops, or get a stone mason to cut you some (I did, at 2-5 碧山路 Bishan Rd. in Neihu, Taipei (near DeAn)); or get a cast iron griddle and use it as a pizza stone.


I use four things for pizza: stone cut by a mason, a flat cast iron griddle, a Lodge Double Play Reversible Grill Griddle, and the lid to my Lodge Double Dutch Oven. I use the lid for deep-dish pizza, and use the dutch oven for boules.  I got the griddle and DO from a local online seller, pichen1102, in Taiwan on Ruten.


The stones and griddle also function as heat sinks on the floor of the oven, so that when I preheat for 45-60 minutes and open the door to put a boule or pizza in, I don't lose too much heat.


The crusts turn out better on the cast iron than on the stone IME. 

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IanSR

Thanks for your advice, and help.


Much appreciated.


Kind regards


Ian

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cherylmathew

I live in Pakistan and we get only one kind of flour - the all purpose flour - that we use in baked goods. I read about all kinds of flour available in Europe and the US - cake four, strong flour, bleached unbleached and so on.
Cheryl

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Syd

Ian, here are a couple of web sites of baking stores in Kaohsiung.  I buy from both of them a lot.  The first one has recently started to stock at least one variety of imported flour.  I haven't bought any yet because I have good results with the local flour and the imported stuff is twice the price.  There is a third shop that I frequent but they don't seem to have a website.  It is on the corner of Sanduo and Guanghua Roads. 


 


http://wlcnet.com.tw/


 


http://www.wlscook.com.tw/


 


Syd

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Mkati

Hello everyone! First time to post. I'm trying to become an excellent bread baker. Does anyone know where I can buy a dutch oven? I live in Taipei.

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Syd

Mkati, try IKEA (宜家).  That is where I bought mine. 


Syd

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Dragonbones

Hi Mkati,


I actually posted that info a few days ago in this thread -- see further up. I bought mine off a seller on Ruten, pichen1102, as well as a cast iron grill. It would have cost just as much or more to get one shipped from the States.  I wanted one with a flat lid with two side handles so that it could double as a deep dish for pizza and the like. If it has a top central knob it can't do that.

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Mkati

Oops! Don't know how I missed that. Thanks for the info! I saw some at Sogo that were wildly over-priced. The ones at Ikea were on the heavy side, yet the lid seemed too flimsy. I know nothing about Dutch ovens; is it supposed to be that way? I need to look into Ruten...


But I'm also wondering if it's worth it since I'm getting fairly edible results without one. Maybe a dutch oven will turn ok bread into amazing bread?


Or maybe I could experiment with one of those ceramic pots before moving onto a dutch oven. Thinking out loud here...


Thanks for everyone's replies!

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Taike

As an alternative, you might consider an ceramic casserole.    They take heat really well and work great for baking bread.  The come in lots of sizes and are pretty cheap.


Here's an example: http://goods.ruten.com.tw/item/show?21010187869946


Otherwise, you should be able to find a true dutch oven at iUse just over the MinChuan bridge on the Neihu side.

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Dragonbones

Where is that iUse, right on Minquan near the gas station, or behind a bit, near Costco, Carrefour etc.?

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Taike

Yes, that's the one. MinChuan E.Rd. sec 6, no18-3.

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Dragonbones

Thanks!