
i need help with working out formula's help anyone?
hey im having trouble working out formulas,
these are the formulas i have to work out,
ingredients %formula 1kilo weigh up
bakers flour 50
semolina 50
salt 2
bread improver MRU
compressed yeast 3.5
water +/-60
so how do i get my weights out of that? anybody know what my weigh up weights would be?
formula 2
ingredients %formula 1kilo weigh up
Bakers flour 90
semolina 10
salt 2
compressed yeast 2
fat 1
improver MRU
water 56+/-
total 126
and what would my weights be for this one?
when it says MRU for improver what does that mean?
cheers :)





Hi, cankramme.
I could do the calculations for you, but you would be better off, in my opinion, learning to do it yourself.
The numbers you have use "Baker's math" also called "Baker's percentages." King Arthur Flour has a nice introduction on their web site. Here's a link:
http://www.kingarthurflour.com/professional/bakers-percentage.html
Most good bread baking books also have instructions for translating a formula into specific ingredient weights.
I suggest you consult a book like Hamelman's "Bread" or Reinhart's "The Bread Baker's Apprentice" or read the linked web page above. If you need any further help, please ask again.
I have no idea what "MRU" means.
David
Also a little intro here in Fresh Loaf Handbook link, at top of each page:
http://www.thefreshloaf.com/handbook/baker039s-math
first, add all your baker's % together.
for the first one, you get 50+50+2+3.5+60 = 165.5
then, divide each bakers % by the total you calculated. so for you that is
50/165.5 = 0.3
2/165.5 = 0.012
3.5/165.5 = 0.021
60/165.5 = 0.363
then multiply those actual % by the total dough weight you want. for example, 1000g
300g of each flour
12g salt
21g compressed yeast
363g water
You can try it for the second formula ;) I have no idea what MRU means for your improver.
Edit: heh, beaten to the punch whilst I was typing.
thanks guys for all your help, and the math links.
i think i may be slowly getting it......maybe ha ha.
the second dough i think i may have worked out,but not sure,is this right?
1 press @ 2.400kg
4 units @ .400
INGREDIENTS %FORMULA 1KILO WEIGH UP
Bakers flour 90 .900 2.554
semolina 10 .100 .255
salt 2 .002 .005
yeast 2 .002 .005
fat 1 .001 .002
improver 1 .001 .002
water 56+/- .560 1.430
TOTAL 126 1.566 4.253
is this right at all? or have i got it all messed up?
your total for the % column needs to be 162 : 90+10+2+2+1+1+56
the % column isn't total percent but baker's % - the total flour in the dough will equal 100%, and everything else is a percentage of the total flour. in your formula, this means that the salt and yeast are two percent relative to the flour, not two percent of the total amount.
what you have in the "1 kilo" column is correct. but only if your total dough weight is 1566g.
on a "per kilo" basis, I get the following (weights in g) using your formula
you can see your total flour weight is 618g (556+62). your water weight is 56% of that ie. 346g
the total dough weight there is 1000g. you can now scale it to whatever size you like by multiplying it out. I hope that explanation helps a bit :) keep practicing! once you get your head around it it will come easily
There are at least two ways to use Bakers Percent Math. The example that jj1109 is showing you is a way to arrive at he amounts to make a certain size loaf by totaling the percents of each item.
The other way to use this method I think is easier to start with and is a more simple process. This method assumes that the flours in total equal 100%. Everything else is measured or calculated from the reference of the 100% of the flour. So the first thing you need to do is add the flours up. In your second example, you have 90% and 10% of two flours. So if you want to make a dough that uses say 600 grams of flour in total, multiply .90 X 600 =540g and .10 X 600=60g. The same applies to all other ingredients. For example the salt is shown as 2%. So multiply 600 X .02=12g.
Once you use this system a few times I'm sure you will find it very helpful. When you want or need to make a formula to make a loaf or batch of an exact size, the other example is used but for now it's probably easier to wait for that one. Hope this helps.
Eric
This seems awfully complicated. I thought I might be ready to tackle formula but now I'm not so sure.
http://www.wildyeastblog.com/bakers-percentage-index/
Susan makes it quite less complicated than it sounds and even breaks it up into three parts.
Hi
Your % column adds up to 162!
If your flour plus semolina is 1000, then the multiplier is 10
Therefore your metric recipe in the second column is 162 x 10 = 1620
In that case if you want to make 4253 g of dough, your multiplier is as follows:
4253/ 1620 = 2.63
So you multiply all the metric ingredients in the second column by 2.63, and, hey presto, that is your recipe.
And..it's all been developed from the original formula using simple multiplication and division.
Best of luck with the maths
Andy
thanks heaps everyone! :) i appreciate it! im finally starting to learn how to do it,
so in my simple words i have to .....add all the percentages together..then divide them with the required yield....then times all my ingredients with that number?
i gave it a go on the two formulas,hopefully these are right?
formula 1
2.222kg flour
.246 semolina
.049 salt
.049 yeast
.024 fat
.024 improver
1.382 water.
and formula 2
1.486 flour
1.486 semolina
.005 salt
.002 improver
.906 yeast
1.783 water
im hoping these are right! haha. it took my brain ages to try and work it out lol.
but thenks again every one for your comments they are much appreciated :)