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Bannetons

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Josh

Bannetons

Hello everyone.


I'm a baker in Sydney, Australia.


Bannetons and other proofing baskets are hard to come by in this part of the world so I need to buy some bannetons online.


I'm just wondering whether its worth the money - so far the oval bannetons I've found on the internet are about $32-$35 each (thats AUD so in USD probably $30ish or so).


To what extent will proofing in a banneton have a bearing on the result?  I understand that they are to provide support to a proofing loaf as well as put a nice uniform pattern on it.


So the short question - how important are good quality proofing baskets?


 


Thanks


Josh

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OldWoodenSpoon

Not so important, in my opinion.  There are many ways to support a loaf while it proofs.  The added benefit of the baskets is that when floured first and used to proof a loaf the moisture of the loaf picks up flour, and that is how we get those pretty circular patterns on the baked loaf.  If you just want to hold up a loaf while it proofs, you can try some less costly alternatives.


For example, for USD $5 I bought 5 small plastic colanders at the local Dollar Store ($1 USD each).  They are just the perfect size for a 700-800 gram boulle of dough.  I line them with well floured plain linen cloths and they work well, but no fancy flour patterns.  I also, on occasion, use some cheap baskets (Dollar store again) lined with linen (since they are colored and I don't know if there is lead in them) that are bigger than the collanders, so I can do boulles up to about 1200gm in those.  For batard loaves you can just use a cutting board or bench board and a linen couch (cloth) to support your loaves.  Inexpensive kitchen mixing bowls of appropriate sizes, lined with flour-dusted  linen will also work.


So, there are lots of alternatives, although only the ones that you have to spend more money on (wicker/willow/wood proofing baskets) will give you well defined flour patterns on your loaves.  If those are worth the money to you then that is what you will need to do.  If those are less important, some of the above ideas will serve you well for less money, as will other options you might think of.


If you are looking for Internet sources, there are several mentioned here on TFL, and you could search for them.  any of them are here in the US.  I cannot say if or at what cost they would ship to you there.  You can look for Lucky Clover,    breadtopia.comfantes.com, and there are others.


Good Luck and Happy Baking
OldWoodenSpoon

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firstfloorfront

Josh


I'm in the UK and Bannetons are fairly easy to come by, even if they are quite expensive, what has put me off about buying any was the additional cost of postage & packing.


I spent ages trying to find a suitable replacement and then whilst walking around a garden centre I found the ideal objects; plastic baskets for holding water plant in ponds. The sides of the baskets are quite steep and not a gentle as a conventional banneton but hey ho, it does the job. They come in all sizes but the 1 litre size is ideal for a 2llb boule. I bought 4, total cost £3.


Peter

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davidg618

from SFBI, least expensive I've found online. I already owned two coiled brotforms, but I bought linen liners for them too.


Before that, I used floured-towel lined saucier pans, Easter baskets--only once, working around the hoop handle was too tricky--colanders, and large Pyrex bowls. All worked fine.


David G


 

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Jw

I think a a lined basket almost gives me better results. but the pattern is very nice, when i works out. I do recall someone at TFL making the bannetons himself..


I do believe prices are way too high (as high as 45 USD in Sweden last year), I got mine from SFBI while on a trip in the US. That was well worth it and I still treasure them. e.g. http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/13740/starfishbread


Cheers,
Jw.

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Daisy_A

Josh,


I've been looking into buying a couple of bannetons for home use. I will probably also use bowls but I covet those lovely looking lines on the bread! 


Price seems to rise the further away you get from the manufacturer, which would make sense.


Because I only need a couple and don't want to pay tax and shipping fees I am thinking about Bakery Bits http://bakerybits.co.uk/Proving-Baskets-and-Bannetons-C121060.aspx?s=Name%20ASC&p=1. They ship to Australia but with shipping a 1kg oval cane banneton works out about 30 AUD, which isn't much of a saving.


However, if you want to buy in bulk, you could try the website of the German manufacturer, where you will find they are much, much cheaper per item - around 5.90 Euros/ 9 AUD for an oval cane banetton. http://www.bannetons.com/index.php?section=angebot


To buy from them you have to order a minimum of 20 pieces and pay shipping and taxes. International delivery also seems to take a few weeks. However, if you are equiping a bakery or buying for a group this might be a viable option. They also advertise trade discount.


I would also be interested to hear if anyone has found cheaper sources (including pp.) in the UK?  Am thinking two round or two oval cane banettons to start with. It will be a present so someone else is raiding the piggy bank but it would still be good to know if I've missed another reasonable UK supplier or whether anyone else found Bakery Bits okay?


Regards,


Daisy_A

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mrfrost
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Daisy_A

Thank you for the link. Will take note.

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boathouse

Daisy_A,

Bannetons come up once in a while on eBay UK. When you enter 'banneton' you get an international eBay seller, grandtobuy2 (China), who sells them at a reasonable price, p&p included, but delivery takes 6 to 12 working days. Their feedback is 100% positive from buyers located in Australia, Sweden, Singapore, etc. I'm not in a hurry, and shall be ordering two nine inch, 750gm bannetons: one for baking and the second as standby, to be displayed on the coffee table.

Regards-

HMK

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Aussie Pete

Hi Josh,


I live just up the road in the Hunter Valley. I googled Bannetons australia for you and found the following supplier/ web site. I think your problems may be over.


http://www.basicingredients.com.au/GLP_baskets.html?gclid=CIaU6sm806ACFQ4gegodpjX1sw


Google Bannetons australia yourself and find some other suppliers. I just found one to start you off. I think you will be surprised what is available for you.


Let us know how you go. Any time your looking for any supplies just state the product and put australia after it. Otherwise you end up all over the world thinking there is nothing here......Cheers...........Pete