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Mathias Dahlgren's Swedish Rye Bread - with an apple twist

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Shiao-Ping

Mathias Dahlgren's Swedish Rye Bread - with an apple twist

The 40-year old Swedish chef-owner, Mathias Dahlgren, has two Michelin-starred restaurants, Bon Lloc and Matsalen, the latter in Stockholm.  His style of cuisine is Swedish traditional as well as innovational (a fusion of Scandinavian, Tuscan, Californian and Oriental dishes). 


I saw a picture of his Swedish Rye Bread in Coco: 10 World-Leading Masters Choose 100 Contemporary Chefs, page 101, and decided to give it a try.  The recipe uses a rye sourdough starter.  It also has a high percentage of instant yeast and molasses, which is 4.7% and 19%, respectively, of total flour, rye gains and seeds.  The approx. dough hydration is 84%. 


The bread is exceptionally moist and flavourful.  For a person who does not normally like a lot of rye flour in bread, I find this bread quite delicious.  The bitterness from the Black Strap Molasses that I used, together with all the grains and seeds and the fermented rye flour, formed a very interesting flavor and texture.


There is something, however, not quite how I would like it in a fully-loaded bread like this one that, if no changes were made to the recipe, I would probably not make it again.  As with the Chinese concept of ying (feminine) and yang (masculine), for something to be balanced, there has to be a ying and a yang element simultaneously.  For instance, the enjoyment of a fatty and salty pork chop (the yang) is enhanced if it is eaten with, say, apple sauce (the ying) - the sourness in the apple sauce cuts through the fat while the sweetness in the fruit compliments the saltiness in the meat.  Another example: the best chocolate lava cake would have some salt in there, or the sweetness would make you sick. 


The issue with this bread for me is: it is perhaps a tad too masculine (too much "yang") because of all the rye grains and seeds in the recipe.  I have no doubt that there are plenty of people who love this bread just the way it is.  I just have a difference taste.  To address the imbalance to my taste, I am adding apple puree as a hydration for the final dough.  Also, I have changed the formula to a sourdough version.   I find molasses an attractive ingredient to add to a bread full of rye, grains, and seeds but I cut it down in my formula (below) as too much molasses makes the bread bitter (which some people may find it an attractive taste).  Here is my Swedish Sourdough Rye Bread with apple puree:


 


               


                                            SP's Swedish Sourdough Rye Bread with apple puree


 


My formula for Swedish Sourdough Rye Bread with Apple


Day 1 - soaker



  • 330 g water

  • 125 g crushed rye grains

  • 43 g rye meal flour (whole rye flour)

  • 83 g sunflower seeds

  • 53 g linseeds (flax seeds)

  • 11 g salt

  • 68 g rye sourdough starter (or any ripe starter) @100% hydration


Mix all the ingredients together and let stand at room temperature for 12 hours or at least overnight. 


Also on Day 1 - rye sourdough starter (Note: Mathias Dahlgren's original recipe uses instant yeast and so there is no rye sour build.)



  • 20 g any ripe starter @ 100% hydration

  • 123 g medium rye flour

  • 70 g water


Mix the ingredients together and let stand at room temperature for 12 hours or until ripe. 


Day 2 - final dough



  • 110 g medium rye flour

  • 123 g white flour

  • 713 g all of the soaker

  • 213 g all of the rye sourdough starter

  • 70 - 100 g molasses (Note: Mathias Dahlgren's original recipe has 140 g of molasses but I find at that quantity the bread is a bit bitter.)

  • 345 g of cooked Granny Smith apple puree or shopped-bought apple sauce  (To make your own apple puree, steam 320 g of chopped Granny Smith until cooked, then puree it with 25 g of honey)


Total dough weight 1585 g; estimated dough hydration 84 - 85%.


Procedure



  1. Mix half of the apple puree with molasses and the other half with the starter. 

  2. Then, mix all ingredients together until thoroughly combined. 

  3. Grease two bread tins. Divide the dough by two and place them in the bread tins. Cover and let rise in a warm place for 3 hours (my room temperature was 28 - 30 C). 

  4. Pre-heat oven to 220C / 425F.  Bake with some steam for the first 3 - 5 minutes, then lower the heat to 185C / 365F and bake for a further 40 minutes. 

  5. Turn out the loaves immediately after baking and let cool on a wire rack (or the bottom will be soggy). 


 


                        


 


My father-in-law and his wife came to stay for Christmas.  They are very discerning diners and both keep in good shape.  They have been told by their doctor to NOT have too much bread made of wheat flour and that if they must have bread, rye and spelt breads are the best.  Whenever they come to visit, I try to make rye and/or spelt sourdough for them.  For today's lunch I served this bread.  They loved it.


 


        


 


                                  


 


Tomorrow morning, when my father-in-law and his wife leave, they will have this little prezzie, all nicly sliced-up to go.


 


                                                      


 


Shiao-Ping

Comments

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ehanner

Shiao-Ping,


This looks wonderful and I'll try it. One question. You don't mention anything about shaping. Is this manageable to shape on a floured counter? Or do you scoop it into the pan? The profile seems to indicate the latter.


Eric

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Shiao-Ping

you'll have to scoop it into the pan.  If you want to shape it, the hydration would have to be much lower.  If you cut down the apple sauce by 1/3, you might be able to shape it free-form, but I am not certain how easy it is without actually doing it.  You will lose some of the openness in the bread.  


I used a shopped-bought apple sauce to save trouble.  The label says it is 92% apple and the balance sugar and perservatives, etc.  

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MC

For all the reasons you give, I want to try it your way! Thanks for the recipe...

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Shiao-Ping

I know you like a lot of fruits (and all those healthy grains and seeds stuff).  I hope you enjoy this bread.


Shiao-Ping

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ehanner

This looks so great SP. Can't wait to try it.


Eric

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Mebake

My dad loves Sour Ryes, iam sure he'll love this variation. Thanks Shiao, spectacular breads again..

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Shiao-Ping

Recently the notification setting for comments I received has been going a bit strange, and I might have missed a few comments.  Sorry about that.


Shiao-Ping

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Doc Tracy

Do you have any idea approx. how many apples that might be? I'm ripening a rye starter now to try this on Saturday. I wanted to try a rye without caraway seeds and this looks wonderful.


Wondering what would happen with whole wheat instead of AP white flour as well? You're so much more experienced than me. Your recipes are amazing!


Tracy

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Shiao-Ping

Two large granny smith apples will be enough.  Each will weigh around 200 grams; after you peel and core it, you will get at least 160 grams each.   If you are not sure how big your apples are, you can always buy more than necessary.  On the other hand, if you find that you are short, you can always add more water.  (But apple does not equal water in its moisture level.  For simplicity, I would say, if you are short 50 grams of apple puree, add 25 -30 grams of water.) 


Whole wheat flour would work beautifully in this recipe, I think. 

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tao_of_dough

Hi Shiao-Ping!  I've never commented on one of your posts before, but I've always been in awe of your blog.  You are one of my baking heroes.  I am going to give this formula a shot, and I'll let you know how it goes.


My wife and I both think that you should publish a book.  Personally, I think you should do a coffee table style book that features your photography equally with your baking expertise.  Just a thought. ")

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Shiao-Ping

Welcome!  And thank you for stopping by.  Let us know if this recipe works for you. 


Thank you, too, for your comment.  (I did publish my recipes and photography - here at TFL.  Hehehe....)


Shiao-Ping


p.s.  Is your "tao" the Chinese tao, the way?

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hsieni.h

看起來真是好吃


如果配上ㄧ杯濃濃的咖啡一定更棒


相片更好看啦.....因為我吃不到啊......

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Shiao-Ping

Shiao-Ping


p.s.  My sister says the bread looks great with a cup of coffee. 

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SourDeux

Thanks for posting this, Shiao-Ping!  This recipe looks amazing.  I'm going to try it this weekend, though, I don't know where to find crushed rye grains.  I'm also not sure what the difference is between that and normal rye flour, except that I assume it is less processed.


I imagine the crushed rye grains add texture to the bread, is that right?  Does anyone know if it would work with just rye flour?  And would the portions be the same, or would I use less/more of rye flour in place of crushed rye grains?


Thanks!


Bill


 

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Shiao-Ping

The crushed rye grains are part of the soakers and you don't want to replace that with rye flour because the grains (along with other seeds) are what give this bread its grainy and nutty texture.   Try your local organic shop or deli shops.  If you cannot get crushed rye grains, you can use whole wheat grains or whole rye grains (or any grains).

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Bakingbird

Absolutely beautiful! Seeing delicious bread like this makes me miss Sweden a lot. It's difficult to get really great rye bread in London, but I should definitely try this one. With a slice of pate on top... mmmm

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Shiao-Ping

why not give this one a try?

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jkandell

I hear what you're saying about the bread being unbalanced as is. But you're forgetting that this bread is usually served with a topping on it or food in it if sandwich. This is where it gets balanced. Thoughts?

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Shiao-Ping

Well, I think my ying and yang talk was rubbish.   Chef Mathias Dahlgren's recipe is beautiful as it is.   But I guess I have a sweeter taste than most people, so adding apple sauce works better for me. 

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nicodvb

Shiao Ping,


your breads are all great, but whenever you touch rye you work magic. It has a really fantastic look!

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Shiao-Ping

That is one of the nicest compliments I've received; I am not sure if I deserve it but thank you very much.  I don't know if you are into Poilane style of miche, but I accidentally walked into a store in Singapore that sells Poilane Miche, air-flown all the way from Paris.  I'd like to post pictures of it when I get a bit of free time over the weekend.