Submitted by Neil C on November 8, 2009 - 10:42am

Stainless Steel Couche HELP


Hi!

I am a Newbie when baking artisan baguettes. Next month, my wife and I are going to a weekend course (Intro to Baguettes for Home Bakers) at Suas' SFBI and are really excited.  

We need help in deciding whether or not to get a professionally assembled couch for $$$ or to build one ourselves.  We presently have a Fermament baking stone that's about 12' x 16 1/2".  My concern is that the typical large 'Insert Pans' extend about 1" plus on each end.

Question: Will the steam stay in the inverted Insert Pan sufficiently well to get the job done?  Or will the steam leak out?

Any and all suggestions will be greatly appreciate.

 

        Neil C in Denver, CO

 

 

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Neil-Steam pan

The pan needs to not be larger than the stone. Lots of options for pans. Round, oval roasting pans, ceramic couche top for $50, aluminum roasting pan, Glass 4 liter bowl (Pyrex). They probably don't do much if anything with covered baking at sfbi since they use commercial deck ovens. Shiao-Ping might comment here. Good luck, sounds like fun.

Eric

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Thanks for your ideas and

Thanks for your ideas and interest.  I think that I'll take a trip to my  restaurant equipment supplier and see what's available.

Again, thanks

Neil

Ceramic couche? Steel couche?

I'm not trying to be a smart-aleck here, but I've never heard of steel or ceramic couche.

Couche is a cloth that's pleated to hold long, raw loaves of bread as they proof.  The cloth rests on a plywood board as the loaves proof.  Covering the board-and-cloth combination with something to prevent air circulation is a good idea -- is this what you mean?

Or are you talking about perforated baguette pans?  These are designed purely for use in a convection oven, with no use of stone at all.  Rack ovens (which are a commercial-sized convection oven) and typical convection ovens use forced hot air to transfer heat to your loaves.  If you don't have a baking stone, then convection with perforated pans is your next best bet, but these pans offer no baking advantage in a conventional oven fitted with a baking stone.

Baguettes need to be placed directly upon a stone to maximize the conduction of intense heat to the loaves and get the best oven spring.  If you proof the baguettes in a scalloped pan and then place the pan on the stone, there will be only radiant heat transfer (just as if there were no stone) instead of conductive transfer, and that will minimize the heat transfer effect.

I'd strongly recommend that you wait until you take the class at SFBI before buying anything.  The instructor should be able to give you first hand advice about what you need to do a good job at home.

--Dan DiMuzio

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Thanks for your timely

Thanks for your timely response, and sorry for the confusion.  I meant cloche, not couche.  Your advice to hold back on purchasing additional equipment, until I go to the SFBI workshop on baguettes, is well taken. 

Your advice on using perforated pans is probably the reason that I don't get that extra spring.  Never thought of conductive vs. reflective heat transfer.  

Again, thanks for your interest and advice.

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