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Submitted by rolls on March 31, 2009 - 6:10pm hi i have a few questions so i'll just throw them all in here... thanks!okay, so i just popped a couple of pain sur poolish boules in the oven. i say boules but by the time they got to the oven, they in no way resembled boules! i had them proofed in a make-shift banneton overnight. when inverting them on to my black grill tray, they stuck to the cloth and came out flat. i still scored (i have a new small sharp serrated knife i am trying out), into hottest oven with steam. i think they still got decent oven spring considering (i just had a peek) but they are still flat compared to the perfect round ball shape i am after. i will try and make sense with my questions: OVEN SPRING:
i have a small oven with fan if that helps. im trying to get nice balls of bread so i can try those soup bowls and this nice recipe i came across in lowfat cookbook where she removes the inside of the loaf toasts everything fills the boule with a cheesey spinach/herb dip and uses the toasted crumb chunks for dipping. i can post the recipe if anyone's interested. anyway, im sure i have heaps more questions but can;t remember them at the moment so i'll have to bother you all with them another time. thanks heaps for any feedback, advice, tips. happy baking!
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What I do
I'm no expert at all this but when I use bannetons, I invert onto pan-sprayed parchment paper. That way I can pick up the loaf with my peel and successfully get it off the peel and into the oven.
Scoring promotes oven spring; if you get a lot of oven spring and you don't score then I think the loaf will either rip at the sides or you will get a big hole between the crust and the bread.
Either steam or use a cloche. Both promote oven spring, but you do either one or the other. The cloche gives me more spring.
Hope this helps, --Pamela
thanks ive been thinking i
thanks ive been thinking i wanna buy a deep aluminium foil roasting pan to cover loaves while baking i saw susan's magic bowl method and since im accident prone i was thinking the foil's much lighter when dealing with a hot oven!
Banneton overnight!
First thing I thought was overproofed. I think it was proofed too long before going into the oven. Try shortening it.
Underproofed: Your dough should firmly resist your finger when you lightly touch it.
thanks mini oven so i
thanks mini oven so i shouldn't proof shaped loaves overnight?
Depends on the temperature
Hi, rolls.
You certainly can proof shaped loaves overnight, if you slow down ("retard") the proofing process by leaving the loaves in the refrigerator. This will, in fact, improve the flavor of many breads. It will increase the sourness of sourdoughs.
If you proof the loaves before refrigerating them, you can bake them after they warm up for an hour. Some folks have succeeded in baking the retarded loaves right out of the fridge. If you refrigerate the loaves right after shaping, they usually need about 4 hours at room temperature to warm up and proof before they are ready to bake.
David
How long is overnight?
10-12 hours?
maybe a little longer
maybe a little longer