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zoe34

nancy today

Hi I have watched this lovely lady on youtube make bread.  I can't work out how she gets the results she does the way she makes her bread is so different from how I have been taught.  (traditional british bread making) see below.


 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNL8KTOyUxw&feature=PlayList&p=2A2F3E693965BFED&index=0&playnext=1


 


What is odd to me is the way she kneads the bread hardly at all, and the way she mixes, no measuring, using bulk yeast which I would have thought would have gone off after a few weeks, the sponge method I've never done that. 


 


I am not saying she is wrong she clearly knows what she is doing -I have never seen anything like it.  Any comments on the method she is using.  I am thinking of trying her way to see what happens.  zoe

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LindyD

I only watched to part six then quit.  I don't think her bread will taste very good since she doesn't use salt. 


She uses instant yeast, builds a sponge, and folds the dough in a bowl - all pretty common.  Punching down the dough is passe. 


I personally don't agree with the hygiene of that wooden bowl (a haven for insect eggs) or using hot water directly from the water heater.  But hey, we all run our kitchens differently and if she is happy with her bread, that's all that counts.


 

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mcs

from her YouTube channel:


category: comedian
style: improv


I think her videos are just meant to be an insight into her eclectic and interesting life and not necessarily a 'how-to' guide.


-Mark

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Debra Wink

This was kinda like watching a trainwreck..... but in colorful flowery hats. Anybody want a slice? ;-)

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xaipete

Wow, that's really healthy, isn't it Debbie! Anybody ever heard of those nasty things that thrive in the hot water heat tank? But the videos are funny.


--Pamela

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ehanner

This is my favorite video. Just watch the first third where she goes looking for the knife. This is hilarious.


I hope this is a spoof on the cooking shows and not something more sad.


Eric

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Debra Wink

One of the other videos showed how grungy her fingernails were, just before she plunged them deep into the dough. But what was that container she dropped the icky fly strip into while foraging on top the cabinets? Of course she didn't wash her hands after handling that. Peanuts? In stollen? Wouldn't you like to be a recipiant on her Christmas gift list? LOL

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xaipete

Thanks for sharing this Eric, dates, knives, blender, and all. --Pamela

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LindyD

The flypaper is what did it for me.  I almost wet my pants. 


Thanks, Eric.  ;-)

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AnnieT

How funny - here I was too embarassed to admit that I had ever watched these videos and it turns out you have all been there with me. I wasn't sure that they were for real, and I still don't know whether to laugh or cry, A.

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Liam

ohmyGawd I think she lives in my neighbourhood

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Wild-Yeast

The good part is that she's baking bread.  The scary part is her nonchalant attitude toward cleanliness.  Then the thought that this may be closer to the norm than any of us believe occurred. 


Now that is scary. . . ,


+Wild-Yeast

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Rosalie

I was trying to imagine what she was thinking when she decided to do these.  And then to post them!  She may know what she's doing as far as making bread goes (the kids like it), but not about making videos.  I'd be embarassed!


And, oh, as far as the original questions go:  There are many ways to successfully make bread.  Check out the various threads on this site.  And I keep my bulk active dry yeast airtight in the freezer.  The yeast I'm using now was purchased in 2002.


Rosalie

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PaddyL

Well, her dough looked awfully greasy, and bread without salt is just too blah for me.  Was that quick rise yeast she was using?  Heck of a lot of yeast for four loaves of bread!

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Liam

Sadly, I think she is serious.  I haven't noticed or got to the parts with the fly paper or really looked at her nails, but I think this is a nice lady who thinks she's doing a service because we all are elevating bread making to some sort of elegant science that just not anyone can do.  I sometimes think we take ourselves waaaaayyyy to seriously.  At any rate I don't know about  your water heaters, but mine's fine.  Finally I use exactly the same type of yeast (a bulk bag of instant yeast, transferred to a spaghetti sauce jar - clean) and freeze it.  It's fine and i've been using it for at least two years, since I often use levain to make my bread and therefore do not use yeast at all.


I do use bottled spring water for my bread because it generated a better rise.  Ditto with organic flours.  I love the levain style though, great oven bloom, great flavour and a unlimited number of possible flavours.  Yesterday I made a leek, sundried tomato and saffron bread.  MMMMMn  MMMMMn Good!

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Debra Wink

From this posted earlier in the thread, I assumed her videos were meant to be a spoof as someone else said.



from her YouTube channel:
category: comedian
style: improv



We were just having a little fun with them. Actually, some of the things she made a point to note---like cutting dough with a knife is bad for the gluten, but squeezing and tearing it is good---is the exact opposite. Everything is so contraray to good bread, and cooking shows in general, it kinda made me think, she really does know a thing or two, and this is a parody of sorts. She seems to have the presense of mind to always move the camera to catch all the chaos. And I even think the camera panned in one of the shots without her reaching for it, like someone else was shooting it for her. Are you sure this isn't meant to be funny?

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LindyD

I Googled her, Debra, and came up with more hits than I cared to explore.  Delving a bit deeper into the YouTube catagories, she is listed under "people and blogs," not "comedians."

I think she is quite serious about all the advice she gives, from making bread to using a wrench (yes, she made a video on that topic), to her medical visits (Orthotics #1).  It's all great publicity for her shop where she sells things like soap and such, plus a "back to nature retreat" at her home.  She's a funny lady, but I think I'll pass on her bread baking advice.

As to the issue of using hot tap water for cooking/baking, Science News advises against it (as does the EPA) and there's an interesting photo of the inside of a hot water heater here.  Pretty creepy...

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Debra Wink

Thanks Lindy---guess I should have googled her. I hope no one is using these bread baking videos as tutorials for anything more than "what not to do." And, I think I'll pass on the back-to-nature retreat. There are plenty of other B&B's available ;-)

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Janedo

Well, I'm at home with a couple of sick children, and myself included, so I spent some time watching the videos. YIKES!!!!!!! That was scary and funny at the same time. Her hygene is atrocious! Her hands dirt and scratched. Her kitchen a complete mess. I got claustrophobic just looking at it. But I had a wonderful laugh and she looks like a very nice, generous person. It puts life and baking in to perspective and once again reminds us all that there isn't necessarily one true road to baking great bread (just don't follow hers! :-))


Jane

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zoe34

well I know the place looked a bit eccentric / funky etc.  But to be honest its more esthetics as long as it gets piping hot you'll be ok.. takes all sorts. She is obviously also exploiting the image for her business.  Zoe