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Nutrimill newbie from Florida

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FLGal

Nutrimill newbie from Florida

Hello everyone.    I live in the Tampa Bay area and have been baking simple breads off and on for the last 20 years, sometimes with my Zojurushi and sometimes by hand - but I would not call myself an expert by any means.  I bake bread because I cannot stand the stuff that passes for bread at the grocery store and I cannot afford to buy everything at the bakery.  I love whole grain breads and I especially love sourdoughs!


I  just purchased a slightly used Nutrimill from a friend of my sister and I am really excited about grinding my own flour.  I have hard red and white wheat on order, but don't have any grain to grind yet, so I am still baking with King Arthur.  I found this site while trying to research how (if) I could use fresh flour for sourdough (several people told me fresh flour would begin to go rancid almost immediately after milling). From what I have read here, it shouldn't be a problem and  I am certainly going to try.


I now have a 3 day old sourdough starter developing (based on Gaarp's great sourdough tutorial) that I hope will be ready for baking with by the beginning of next week.  Right now, I am just waiting for it to double!  If this is successful, i am thinking I may try a second starter with my fresh milled flour when it arrives.  Would the two starters develop different tastes/characters or is it just the wild yeast in my kitchen that creates the flavors? 


This is a great site for information and inspiration -

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xaipete

Hi Florida Gal. I can't imagine why freshly milled flour would go rancid almost immediately after milling! This certainly can't be correct information. I grind flour when as I need it, probably once a week. I usually end up a little more than I need and have never noticed any off flavors coming from it. My neighbor grinds and immediately freezes any extra for nutritional reasons, but I don't worry about that. I'm sure your slightly used mill will work perfectly for you. I grind on low speed, but select fine grind.


--Pamela

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FLGal

Thank you, Pamela, for your advice about milling speed and grind.


I do not know why I have been told I need to use my fresh flour immediately after milling.   Rancid may not be the correct term as I have also been told that there is a rapid loss of nutrients after milling.  I really have no clear understanding of this. 


At this point, I plan to experiment a little on my own and see what kind of results I get.

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beeman1

I would like to mention that Wheat Montana will be taking orders in your area at the end of this month. www.mannamakers.com  and www.haleysilo.com   l

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FLGal

Thanks for the info and links, Beerman.  I will check them out.

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swtgran

I have found that keeping it simple as far as sourdough starter works best for me.  I started my whole wheat starter from freshly ground white whole wheat from Wheat Montana.  I just mixed equal amounts of wheat and water and stirred it regularly until it was bubbly.  Then I fed it with double the weight in water and wheat.  That starter is fantastic at making bread rise and tastes great.


I think you will love your grain mill. 

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FLGal

Thanks for the advice, Swtgran


I am very anxious to begin milling.  Waiting for my initial wheat order is torture. To pass the time, I am trying to get a starter started with AP and Gaarp's method.  It has been 48 hours since the day 3 feed and no real growth; however, the familiar alcohol-type smell has replaced the really bad one and I am sure that is a good sign.  I will try the rye flour boost this morning and keep trying to encourage it


I will definitely try a starter from freshly milled flour when my order arrives - how long did it take your starter to get bubbly and do you keep it at room temp or refrigerate?


Florida Gal 

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sharonk

After you have some experience with your nutrimill, I would be very interested to know if you think it would grind small grains like amaranth, teff or quinoa. I am a gluten free baker, grinding my own flour using 3, count'em 3, different grinders since no one machine seems to properly grind all the grains I use.


Does anyone else have experience with this?


thanks,


sharonk