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fupjack

What's that smell?

I am trying to build up a starter for the first time in a while.  My starter's been growing for about 5 days, and smelling not too strong.  Last night I built some loaves using it, and fermented them overnight.

This morning, the loaves and the starter smelled... strong.  Not acidic like vinegar, but acidic like fresh vomit.  (I've got kids, I've encountered it plenty.)  I've had starter go bad before and turn sort of pink, but this looks normal.  Is there something else creeping in there?

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kringle

Hearty Sandwich Loaf

On America’s Test Kitchen they made what appears, a really good grilled cheese sandwich.  It calls for a hearty sandwich loaf.  I’m guessing they mean a tight crumb that will hold the cheese in place.  Can anyone recommend a recipe to me? 

Thanks,

John

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PalwithnoovenP

Pane Yaksik - Brown Sugar, Soy Sauce & Honey

This is my first bake for 2016 and it is my most outrageous bake to date!



Yaksik (藥食/약식) is a traditional Korean sweet dish made by steaming glutinous rice, honey, nuts and dried fruits. Yak (藥)  in Korean means medicine and Sik (食) means food so yaksik literally means medicinal food. Honey has been regarded for a long time as medicinal and from my research it is the reason why yaksik was called yaksik. Yaksik is usually seasoned with honey, brown sugar, and soy sauce further augmented by cinnamon and sesame oil; those flavors are the main inspiration of this bread. I don't have the "standard" yaksik mix of jujubes, pine nuts and chestnuts but I have golden raisins so that's what I used here as I think any dried fruit will do; the only important thing is there are some.



This is the glorious Yaksik seasoning sauce made with dark brown sugar, soy sauce, honey, cinnamon, sesame oil and cinnamon. It's very fragrant and enticing but don't try to taste it in its pure state as it is so intense that it might make you throw up like what almost happened to me!



This is the finished dough with the raisins already incorporated. I use strong flour because of all that gluten weakening sugars and used more yeast because I don't have osmotolerant yeast which is preferable for high sugar doughs. This is still the old me, baking without measuring. I planned a bulk rise at room temperature for an hour before it goes to the fridge but when I checked it, it hasn't grown so I let it go for another hour and when I checked again there is hardly any growth! Oh no! Various thoughts ran through my mind; Have I killed the yeast with the cinnamon and soy sauce? Is the amount of yeast I added too little and all of the sugars are slowing to the point that it's dead? I remember that the night is much colder than the nights I made bread before, I asked Siri about the temperature and she said it's 24°C. 24°C is considered (very) cold where I live so maybe it's the reason why the dough is slow to rise so instead of putting it in the fridge I left in outside near my bed for the bulk fermentation.



I was greeted by this beauty this (notice the difference in the light?) morning! She's alive! All those sugar, soy sauce and cinnamon did no harm to her!

 
This is my gift to myself for this year's baking, a pullman pan! For us with no ovens this is our best friend! For bread to be cooked evenly without an oven, I found out over the years that conduction is the best heat transfer method for even browning and cooking, convection and radiation are just to uneven and I always end up with an almost burnt bottom and a pale top. With a pullman pan, there is something that will support the structure of loaf  and regulate intense temperatures while cooking and you can turn the bread so all sides get a chance to face the heat source from the bottom. The result is an evenly browned and cooked loaf; still, more work and not as even as an oven does but a million times better that what I achieved before. I baked this in a frying pan over a wood fire because the pullman pan is too large for my clay pot.



The dough rose nicely in the pan indicating good gluten development, I compensated for the high amount of sugar by a lot of kneading and strong flour. I followed txfarmer's advice of letting the dough proof just 80% of the pullman pan for a perfect height with round corners of the finished loaf. Being high in sugar, the bread stuck on the lid of the pullman pan when it finished cooking despite a good amount of oil so the top crust was ripped but it's still pretty for us. Likewise the bottom crust stuck to the parchment paper and I have no choice but to peel it off. It is enough to be thankful that bread was not burnt since it's very easy to burn it. Those marks at the top are from the cooling rack.



It has a very interesting flavor, very different from the pure seasoning sauce. Coming out from the pan the aroma of peanut butter wafted in the air with hints of chocolate and cinnamon. The bread was not very sweet but has a strong flavor of molasses and a touch of honey. There is a slight saltiness with a savory note for you to know it's something different but not enough to reveal there's soy sauce in it. The juicy raisins complemented the other flavors well especially the cinnamon flavor that comes through last in the flavor profile, not that strong cinnamon flavor that you will think it's "cinnamon raisin bread" but just enough for a sense of familiarity and fragrance in this entirely unconventional treat. Definitely not a flavor for everyday snacking for me but nice to have to shake up the palate once in while!


The crust is very thin, soft and delicate. The crumb is very soft that it's very difficult to slice, it's easier to pull a chunk off the loaf or pull shreds to eat. It's like eating an intensely flavored cloud.



The color is not as intense as a real yaksik because the ratio of the seasoning sauce to the grain is lower but it's still there. For the record, I still haven't made or even tasted an authentic yaksik made with glutinous rice. I think a more robust whole wheat will stand up and complement more all the intense flavors of this bread. I will use more honey and less or even completely leave brown sugar out next time because honey should be the star sweetener as it was the reason why yaksik was called yaksik. Finally I will try to complete the traditional add-ins pine nuts, chestnuts and jujubes next time.

I wish you could try it! It goes very well with tea! Wait! Why is there always tea in the photos? Well, it's a preview for my next post that's still in theory. I hope you enjoyed this post, until next time!

Thank you very much!

Job


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PY

Misadventure in Shaping

My misadventure in shaping my dough which was based on Hamelman's Vermont Sourdough with increased whole grain turned out looking like a bit of Ken Forkish's style. Not complaining.

Adapted from Hamelman's Vermont Sourdough with increased whole grain. Subbed the rye with freshly ground whole wheat. Instead of mixing with the mixer, I mixed by hand and gave the dough 3 additional folds that the recipe called for during bulk fermentation. I also added a cold bulk fermentation after the 3 folds, for about 4 hours, pre-shaped and benched and and final proofed for 1 hour after shaping.

Steam on for 15 minutes (wet towel on a hot baking pan) at 230C and then lowered to 220C for 48 minutes. Love the taste of freshly ground whole wheat which imparts a nice honey-ish taste.

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Grenage

Incorporating potato

Good afternoon,

I've started varying my bakes a little; more specifically, adding sweet potato.  I've been sticking with my regular sourdough formulae (123), and the sweet potato was boiled.

I'd hitherto not boiled sweet potato, so was unprepared for the quantity of water that came through the ricer.  I had to add about 200g of flour when adding 250g of sweet potato in order to maintain my usual consistency; I believe 150g may have been sufficient, as it later firmed up.

Do you seasoned bakers normally roast potato, or do you simply factor in the increased water content?  I am considering boiling another batch and straining it, to try and get a rough idea of the water/potato ratio.

Russell.

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Lennonlady

In home bread baking business

Hello from Texas

 Can anyone suggest the best breads to kick off a new bread baking business that I am planning to start ?  I will be doing this from my home.  I am In the planNing stages and plan to have my customer base through a very large nearby company.  I have had this dream forever .  This is not a hobby but a profit making endeavor . I plan to start in kitchen and eventually build a small kitchen later on my property.  I'm all ears.  Can someone guide me.?

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drogon

My Rofco Oven

I did a blog post on my own site about my experiences so-far with my Rofco - the quick version is that "it's good and works really well for me".

Link here to my own site: http://moorbakes.co.uk/the-rofco-experience/

Hope its of use.

Cheers,

-Gordon

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drogon

White (golden) Wholemeal bread

I've read here about White Wholemeal flour - and been confused by it, however I've recently obtained some, although the stuff I have is called "Golden Wholegrain". (Wholemeal and Wholegrain mean the same in the UK).

So what I gather is that it's the colour of the bran which is normally a reddish brown in most wheat, but some varieties have a whiter/golden coloured bran - and this is the white, or golden wholemeal in this case.

I've done a few trial bakes - sold a few loaves and it's gone down well - it won't be a regular of mine though as it's not an organic flour, however it was interesting. I applied my usual 100% wholemeal recipe to it which worked out well.

For a large tin loaf (or 2 small ones)

  • 530g wholemeal flour (100%)
  • 425g water (80%)
  • 1.5g dried yeast (0.3%)
  • 9g salt (1.7%)

Mix flour & water and leave for up to 2 hours (autolyze). I then use a stand mixer with a dough spiral (or my A200 when making 3+) to knead it at a low speed. Add the yeast, continue to knead for a moment more then add the salt and knead for 5 minutes. (all at low speed).

Turn out, leave for a few minutes, then shape into a boulle and leave to slowly ferment overnight.

In the morning, gently tip out, shape into a boulle, bench-rest for 5-10 minutes, then re-shape into a log and place in a tin to prove which should take about an hour or so in a warm kitchen. Do check after an hour and don't let it over-prove.

into a hot oven (250°C) for 12 minutes with some steam to help keep the crust soft as the loaf gets a final push, then down to 210°C for a further 23 minutes.

It's quite a soft crumb, but it holds together very well. The smell is very nice. The one in the picture was baked in my Rofco which produces a slightly darker crust than my fan ovens do - it's very reminiscent of the Scottish plain loaves I grew up on (the taste/smell of the crust that is)

-Gordon

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Mrsgrew

Tin sizes and the amount of dough

I have bought 4 tins, and would like advice on how to work out how much flour and dough to put in.

 

First tin:

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Traditional-Farmhouse-Non-Stick-Lets-Cook/dp/B00CD0IUA2

 

I find 500g of flour will rise to the top and I have read 625g will let it bloom over and dome nicely. Even though it is meant to be a 3lb tin. I filled this with water and nearly 2000g.

 

Second tin:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Extra-Large-capacity-Farmhouse-Loaves/dp/B009QZH3JQ

 

This I find needs 800-1000g, which is 200g off the 4lb it is meant to be. Should I use very strong flour with a loaf this big and how long should I bake it for as I am struggling to find recipes for bread this large. I filled this with water and it is 2400g.

 

Third tin:

http://bakerybits.co.uk/2lb-or-900g-seamless-aluminium-loaf-tin.html

 

The sides are far too short! Well at least I think so. I've used 500g of flour for this one and it doesn't do very much. I bought this based on Paul Hollywood's recommendation that bakery bits do a proper 2lb tin and he named dimensions which matched this one.

 

Tin number 4:

 

https://creedsdirect.co.uk/item/359/Bread-Tin-800g--Sandwich-T3056

 

I thought my problem was i needed a tin with straight sides and more sandwich like. So I got this. I put 500g of flour thinking it would make 800g loaf as the tin is labled and it hasn't got the size I would expect, barely 3/4 of the tin. I filled it with water and weighed and it was roughly 2400g.

 

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alfanso

FWSY Field Blend #2 as baguettes (what else?)

Plus one little batard...

Used my own levain on these.  3x300g, 1x550g.

alan

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