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Danni3ll3

5 Grain Levain with Bulgur

I have been away from bread making for a month due to other obligations and this was the recipe that called out to my baker’s soul. ? 

The last time I did this recipe, I used cracked rye and oat groats so I changed it to bulgur and old fashioned oats. I also changed the Wholewheat flour from Red Fife to Selkirk wheat. The bran was sifted out and used in feeding my starter to get it up to speed before making the final levain. 

The procedure was also changed a bit as my curiosity was piqued when reading about putting the dough in the fridge at the end of the bulk fermentation. A few of you seem to be getting some amazing results. I do remember getting some really open crumbs when I have occasionally retarded the bulk in the middle of things due to an interruption of some sort, but I have never done this intentionally. And never for several hours! 

 

Makes 3 loaves

 

Liquid Levain build 

272 g Bread flour 

343 g Water 

55 g Starter (bran was used to refresh it at a 100 % hydration)  

Soaker

100 g bulgur

100 g Flaxseeds 

85 g Sunflower seeds 

85 g old fashioned oats (large flake)

484 g Water, boiling 

6 g Salt 

Dough

533 g Unbleached flour 

15 g Vital Wheat Gluten

274 g Sifted freshly milled Selkirk wheat flour  

303 g Water 

30 g yogurt (Greek because that is what I had on hand)

21 g Pink Himalayan Salt 

All of the Soaker 

650 g Levain 

A couple of days or the morning before

  1. Main dough and levain prep: Mill 320 g of Selkirk berries and sift. Use 274 g of the sifted flour for the main dough and reserve the bran and the remaining few grams of sifted flour to revive or feed the starter prior to making the final levain. 

 

  1. Soaker prep: Measure out the bulgur, and oats. Reserve. Grind the flax seeds coarsely in a Bullet or spice grinder. Add to the bulgur and the oats. Toasts the sunflower seeds and add to the bulgur, oats and flax. Add the 6 g of salt. Cover and reserve.

 

  1. Main dough prep: To the 274 g of sifted flour, add the unbleached flour, and the vital wheat gluten. Mix well to distribute the VWG.  Cover and reserve.

 

The night before making the dough

  1. Levain: Twelve to sixteen hours before the the final mixing of the dough, put all of the ingredients together for the levain and keep covered at room temperature (73 F).
  2. Soaker: Add the boiling water to the soaker ingredients and cover. Leave to cool overnight at room temperature.

 

Final mix and bake

  1. Put the water and the yogurt for the dough in a bowl and add the soaker. Mix well to loosen the mass. Measure 650 g of the levain, add to water and soaker, and mix again. Add this mixture to the reserved flour mix and make sure to mix well to a shaggy dough. Autolyse for 60 to 75 minutes.
  2. My dough felt dry so I added another 50-60g of water with the salt. Mix well to integrate all ingredients and do several series of folds to begin developing the gluten. I initially did 50 folds, let rest 10 minutes, do another 10 or so folds, rest 10 more minutes ad do another 5 or 6 folds. 
  3. Bulk ferment the dough at room temperature and do folds every half hour until the dough has risen about 30%. This took 2 hours at 73F. 
  4. Place in the fridge for 4-5 hours. I left mine for 4.5 hours in a 37F fridge. The dough rose to just about double. 
  5. Pour the dough out onto a bare counter and divide into 3 loaves. Lightly flour the top of the portions and gently round into boules using a dough scraper. This was much easier than usual because of the cold dough. 
  6. Let rest 45 minutes. Do a final shape by cinching and rounding the dough with a scraper to make a fairly tight boule, but without deflating the dough. Place seam side down in rice/ap floured bannetons and cover. Let rise on the counter for an hour and then put to bed in the fridge for the night.
  7. The next morning, pre-heat the oven and the Dutch ovens to 475F. Place parchment rounds in the bottom of the pots and place the dough in seam side up. Score if you wish. I chose not to. Cover and bake for 25 minutes at 450F. Remove lids and bake for another 25 minutes at 425F or until the inside temperature is 205 F or or more.

The loaves had pretty good but not fantastic oven spring. That being said, I got great ears even though I didn’t score the dough.  Crumb shots to come later when they cool. That’s the first batch to come out of the oven. I have a second batch of six and a batard to go in as soon as the oven is back up to temp. 

 

kenhill85's picture
kenhill85

Flat loaf :(

Hey guys,

I'm a novice baker (baked maybe my 10th loaf) and I have an issue with my "tartine" style country bread: despite developing the gluten quite well and achieving a beautiful open crumb, the bread proofs more outward than upward.

The recipe is this: 715g water 200g starter 900g bread flour 100g whole wheat flour 20g salt + 50g more water

I did a 2 hour autolyse, 5 rounds of stretch and folds over 90 minutes (instead of over 3 hours, following the method "Tartine for dummies" on Youtube). Bulk fermented 24h in the fridge with not a lot of growth, shaping with reasonable strength and tension (I bought a high gluten bread flour, so the handling of this relatively high-hydration dough was pretty cool), 12h fridge proofing, seeing that it didn't rise a ton. So I gave it 5 more hours at room temp, which finally produced the right springiness.

 

When I dumped the loaves into the Dutch oven, they were quite runny again and baked into beautiful, but flat loaves.

 

My assumption is that I lost a lot of the strength and tension in the long proof at room temperature - but my starter didn't move much in the 4°C fridge, so I decided for the room temperature proofing.

 

When I baked my first few loaves, I added very small amounts of active dry yeast to help my young starter out - those loaves proofed considerably faster and had better ovenspring (I didn't lose all the tension as I was able to proof them in the fridge, and a lot faster).

 

Ideas? More starter? Try to get the starter stronger? (it did float, btw). Other ideas about the process?

 

Thanks! Ken

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Bigblue

Rate my loaf. First 100% fresh milled whole wheat.

First time baking a 100% fresh milled, 100% whole wheat.

  • Organic Canadian Red Fife whole wheat, ditto for starter with a 3x refresh fed mainly bran/germ.
  • 79% hydr. 
  • 9% prefermented flour, 100% hydr.
  • 40m AL.
  • 7 minutes slap and folds. 4 rounds of bowl folds every 30m during bulk.
  • 2 hour bulk fermented then 15 hour bulk retard @ 4c.
  • 2.5 hour proof at about 21c. 
  • DO preheat 500; baked 20m 470. 20m 435 uncovered.

Tried a bulk retard for the first time. Coated the loaf with sifted bran/germ. Dough definitely collapsed when I put it on the hot DO and I rushed the score. Thought the loaf would surely be super flat. Must have sprung at least 2x even though it's not all that tall. Honestly, I barely taste a difference between this loaf with the 15hr bulk ferment and 100% whole wheat fresh milled vs other loafs I've made with 30% bread flour and 20% rye. Must have blunt taste buds.

Common wisdom is a longer AL and at least 85% hydration with 100% whole wheat fresh milled. But it seemed wet enough. 

I prefer the proof retard simply because the dough is easier to transfer from the banneton to the DO and as long as it's getting a long fermentation, I'd bet I couldn't tell a taste difference between a bulk retard or proof retard.

Questions:

  1. The dough seemed to lack strength when I transferred to DO from banneton so I was curious if I over-fermented or did not develop enough strength during the SL&F of ST&F or bulk. Or maybe it's just the bran cutting the web. Any thoughts? Doesn't look over-fermented given the crumb, crust colour, and that there was some bloom.
  2. Take this same loaf and up the hydration to 90%, what do you think the differences would be in the loaf?
  3. Is anyone proofing in a warm environment of 33c/92f? Would a warmer environment than a 21c room temp aid in gas production outpacing gas loss? 
  4. Should I use a 66% hydration starter as it's thought to aid in final dough strength?
  5. Is the reason for a longer AL for whole grains to soften the bran?
  6. Do you think feeding a starter with sifted bran from week old milled flour would affect either vigor or nutrition of the starter?
  7. When would slap-and-folds be advantageous compared to bowl stretch-and-folds? If a dough will be structurally challenged like fresh-milled 100% whole grain, does vigorous early gluten development make more sense? Are SL&Fs always better than omitting them and doing bowl ST&Fs only?

Thanks for the help!

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franbaker

100% whole wheat partial success

Yesterday I baked a loaf of bread using this recipe, with a few changes:

http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/34166/100-whole-wheat-bread-rye-sourdough

Mainly, I tried a soak at 80% hydration, but added the salt, and the dough was very stiff, so I added more water until the dough was wet enough to do stretch and folds, so it ended up being about 87% hydration. Also, I refreshed my rye starter with whole wheat flour a couple of times before using it to bake the bread. I used freshly ground Red Fife.

The dough stayed very wet through stretch and folds and wouldn't develop a skin. I did manage to shape it anyway, but it stuck badly to the cloth lining of my (floured with rice flour, but obviously not well enough for such a wet dough) banneton, had to be carefully detached, and went into the hot clay baker looking like a rather tall, oblong pancake. The crust was a disappointment, but I got some oven spring and am pretty happy with the crumb for 100% whole wheat at this point in my learning process. Flavor: delicious. My other eater: "I like it".

 I hope I uploaded the image at the top of the post correctly. I'm not sure I've understood how to add photos to the body of the post; I'm working on adding one -- I'll check and see how these actually publish.

 

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dmsnyder

July 2018 baking, to date, aka waste not

It's been a while since I have blogged here, but I have been baking. In the past couple weeks, I have actually baked some new stuff that I think is worth sharing.

First, I am still stuck on Ken Forkish's "Field Blend #2." This is a mixed grain sourdough with about 40% whole grains. I have been home-milling the whole grains since I got my MockMill and appreciating the results. Forkish's formula calls for some whole wheat and more whole rye. I love this particular mix, but I have substituted Kamut for some or all of the rye at times. All the breads have been good. So far, I like the original blend best. Here is one of the most recent bakes:

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At the end of last month, I had made a 90% rye bread. I had rye sour left over, and I hadn't made Jewish Sour Rye for a while, so I did. I think they came out well.

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I have been sharing some loaves with neighbors and with a committee I am on that meets weekly. The loaves I keep for my wife and myself may not get completely consumed before they get a bit dry. We have a number of favorite uses for dry bread. One of them is Salmon Cakes that my wife makes. They are super-delish, both hot out of the pan and cold out of the fridge the next day. 

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I have been wanting to make pizza for weeks, but it just wasn't happening. One morning, I decided I had to "just do it." I had been making sourdough pizza crust with varying results for the past few years. This time, I decided to go in somewhat the opposite direction. I made the dough using Ken Forkish's "Same Day" pizza dough from FWSY. I used 25% Caputo 00 and 75% "Bread flour." Okay ... I am passionate about sourdough baking, but, I must say, this made one of the best pizzas I've had not made in a wood-fired oven.

The toppings were our current favorite combination: Tomato sauce with garlic and oregano, mozzarella, caramelized red onions finished with balsamic vinegar, Italian sausage and mushrooms. Parmesan, fresh basil leaves, pepper flakes and EVOO after baking.

I made enough dough for 4 pizzas. My wife and I ate one. Another was frozen for future lunches. The other two dough balls sat in the fridge for a couple day, just growing and growing. So, I made a focaccia with fresh rosemary and garlic and coarse sea salt. It was awfully good for white bread and made a nice sandwich with Adell's smoked chicken/apple sausage.

Although I have been home milling at least some of the flour in almost all of my baking for the past few months, I had yet to make a bread with the majority of the flour fresh-milled until today. Today's baked was, again, from FWSY - a 75% whole wheat levain. Now, many of the FWSY breads I like call for spiking with instant yeast. I typically leave it out. For this bake, the formula called for just a tiny bit of instant yeast, and I thought "why not?" Well, even with no proofing except at 40ºF in the fridge, the loaves over-proofed. So oven spring and bloom were modest. The crumb structure remained good, and the flavor is lovely. I'll be making this bread again, but leave out the IY next time for sure!

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That's what I've been baking for the past few days. We're planning to spend most of the rest of July - the hottest month of the year where we live - in cooler climes. (Bach Festival in Carmel and Giant's games in San Francisco.) Hope you all are coping well with the weather where you live!

Happy baking!

David

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DanAyo

Tip - Exact positioning of roaster cover over bread

Lately during baking the bread’s sides has come in contact with my roasting cover. In order to prevent this I placed the roasting cover on my stone and traced the outline with a pencil. Now when the hot oven is ready I position the dough (on parchment) exactly in the middle of the outline. Then place the cover over the penciled marks.

This has solved my problem. It also helps when misting every 5 minutes to add additional steam.

Dan

I always post tips with “Tip - “ at the beginning of the subject line. I had hoped that doing this would make a search pull them all up at once. Unfortunately, It doesn’t work with Floyd’s query.

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Rannila

Fruit yeast water..help please

i have jumped head first into fruit yeast water, and I have a few questions.

1. Can the fruit be used? I have a green tomato YW and I am not sure if I shout toss the fruit or cook it...

2. I keep my sourdough starter out all the time. it never goes into the fridge, and I feed it usually twice a day. Can I do the same thing with the YW? If so what do I feed it? More fruit? 

3. I have read the YW can be used in everything yeast is in, but when I tried to make bagels from my RYW it didn’t work out. Does anyone have advice on how to portion the YW compared to commercial yeast?

4. I know I have many more questions, but they have slipped my mind....

o am so excited to use this yeast.

tia

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DanAyo

How to get double ears with a single cut

I have searched high and low looking for info about “double ears” with a single score. Our pal, Solano produced a beautiful example. I took this image from one of his post.

I assume it is a straight, 90 degree cut. I would love to know how to produce these ears.

Dan

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julie99nl

Hand laminated or sheeter...

Despite our warm summer weather my hand laminated doughs are still a possibility. I've been working on the ideal formula for croissant that can come out of the freezer and be baked in the morning without noticeable loss of quality from freezing.  I had a few croissant in the freezer that I had laminated with a sheeter at the pastry school.

The recipe formula is the same, the only differences are the brands of butter and the use of instant yeast versus fresh yeast at the school.

This last batch of hand laminated croissant is pretty close and hard to see the difference...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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chleba

active starters and feeding ratios

Hi there, I hope my train of thought here make sense.

Assume:
 - fixed temp (TBD)
 - 100% hydration starter
 - doubles in 12 hours

Questions:
1. What is a target feeding ratio that will confirm the starter is strong enough to build a bread?
2. What is the minimal feeding ratio that will yield a starter strong enough to build a bread?
3. Can I build a successful bread with a starter that takes 24 hours to double, versus the 12 hour, if using the ratios from #1 and #2?
4. What are techniques to strengthen a starter?  Lower ratio until you get doubling in 12 or fewer hours, then increase over some period of time?

These questions stem from combination of starter difficulties and spending last few months researching many "how tos" on starters.  It appears a lot of people try to target a 1:4:4 or 1:5:5 (s:w:f) with 12 hour feedings.

It is understood that many factors will impact the growth and strength of yeast.  I'm looking for target guidelines.

Thank you for your time!

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