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trailrunner

Chocolate Yeast Water levain / rye with cherries & pecans

and orange zest with semi-sweet chocolate chips. I took bits and pieces from TFL posters Shaio Ping and Beatrice as well as Jay on Perfect Sourdough a Facebook bread blogging site. I used his formula with a major twist. I made the levain with AP and cocoa and YW . I added another 100g of YW to the dough . This was a very large batch of dough. A two hour autolyse with everything except add ins. One s&f and an hour later one lamination for add ins. That’s it. No shaping just folded the edges under this the gorgeous free form bursts. The crumb is open and tender and so rich. The loaves were retarded 18-20 hrs. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Wild Ewok

Bosch help- dough always wraps around center pole, never forms ball. Gluten development rough

Hi all,

I've always had problems with my bosch kneading. Can you help me out? The only time I ever got the perfect dough ball was when I borrowed a bottom drive bowl, but surely that can't be the only way to get a decent loaf to form?

I'm just using AP flour with a pretty high protein content (11%). I attempted to make 4 loaves of bread with the following recipe:

  • Flour-1680g
  • Water-1110g
  • yeast-50g SAF Instant (I know this is very high, I'll decrease it in later experiments, but it shouldn't affect gluten development should it?)
  • Sugar-80g
  • salt-40g
  • oil-50g

I mix all the ingredients except flour and let it sit for a minute or so until the yeast begins to bloom. Then add half the flour and mix until smooth. Add the rest of the flour in parts. Check windowpane. Begin kneading. I keep it pretty low, around 1 or 2, but it just wraps around the center from the get go! When I make smaller batches, I can get a decent windowpane test after 10 minutes, but it's still wrapped around the pole. This time with the double recipe (4 loaves), every time I checked the windowpane, it looked like it was getting stringier and stringier until I gave up at 10 minutes. It was never not "stringy," however. So it's almost like it started out being overkneaded. 

Below is the video of what it looked like at 6 minutes of kneading on speed 2:

 

 

Can anyone tell me what's happening in my machine??

Thanks!

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chocobo_ff

Bread measures 95°C in centre but seems underbaked?

Hi,

Having some issues with the centre of my sourdough being underbaked. I use the 1-2-3 ingredient method so dough is just over 70% hydration, stretched and folded over 4 hours, then goes in the fridge over night. It gets another ~3 hours at room temp in the morning before baking on a pizza stone, preheated for ~45 mins at 250°C. After 35 mins the centre measures about 95°C, I then waited for about an hour before slicing into it. Two possible problems/solutions I can see:

  1. Preheat the oven for longer.
  2. Let the bread cool completely before slicing.

Is there anything else that might be causing the bread to be underbaked?

Thanks! ?

 

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CUISINED

Is there that much difference between Spiral Mixer and Planetary Mixer

for mixing bread dough?

or::me buying Haussler Alpha will do my dough much better results?

currently I'm using an 2008 KitchenAid mixer, Artisan KSM150. it's beginning to be too small for my current dough mixes and I feel like upgrading. I understand from the web that this is quite highly recommended mixer and I can't tell by those reviews if that's true or there's other stuff not talked about on those forums and web videos.

I've seen a TFL post that stated that the Alpha had or still have electric problems. Can you confirm this or the other?

frankly I am looking for the best and honest reply you can assist me with because I will be ordering this mixer to ship overseas so factoring in the expense of repair, I'd like to know as much as possible before ordering. 

So..Is the Haussler Alpha (2 speed) Mixer a good dough Mixer/Kneader?

Thanks and best,

 

 

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Valdus

What should I bake?

I want to bake something with the goal of immense oven spring. Here are some things I want to focus on:

  • focus on oven spring, so lots o steam but any recipe would be good for that. 
  • I am very curious about the 1-2-3 ratio method. But I am not sure of the measurements. I did one that started with 60g of starter and that thing was barely a bun. 
  • I am fascinated by the slap and fold method, and would like to try that out as well. 

Suggestions for a simple sourdough recipe?

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CUISINED

Baguette turns too crusty

Hi,

I have a baking stone that I preheat to precisely 230c. then I load my baguettes and throw ice cubes. close the oven door and let oven spring occur. after 7-10 minutes I release steam and cook until golden.

the problem is they do not turn golden so I keep baking until they are and then I get a really crusty baguette and I am not aiming for. 

I do use sourdough.

I've tried entering the baguettes to a hotter oven (when the spirals are working toward maintaining 275c, spirals always on) did color they baguettes faster but still turns with hard crust.

I have added olive oil to autolyse still hard. also non-diastatic malt. non  get the crust off.

my recipe is (dough hydration 66%)

350 APF

220 water

8 salt

100 starter (100%)

I have a short video of making them , they look fine but too crusty..

help will be greatly appreciated!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZS9vsUvmas (those are on the hotter oven. I've made ones today and had it on 230c and they basically turned yellowish, but again too crusty, tooth breaker!!)

- cuisined

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mutantspace

The Rye Baker

Is the rye baker by Stanley Ginsberg a must have book if youve found yourself falling in love with long slow rye sourdoughs> or are there better books out there?

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highhydro

Difficulty creating consistent ears

This is a white sourdough, 70% hydration with Shipton Mill white flour. 

All these loaves went in my Rofco B40 at the same time (270c dropped to 200c for 35mins), with steam. 

 

As you can see, only one of the loaves seems to have developed half decent ears, whereas the rest have either barely done it or failed miserably. One of them is flat. 

 

Where am I going wrong?? 

 

I bulk fermented for nearly 7 hours - I felt that the dough was a bit too wet when I shaped them. I proved them overnight in the fridge and they went into the oven cold. 

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Bart Tichelman

Chocolate and Cherry Sourdough from Moderniste Cuisine

I have been eyeing this recipe for a long time. I finally screwed up the courage to bake it this weekend...and wow, what a spectacular result.  I followed the original recipe with one exception; I omitted the commercial yeast, and added 90 minutes to the bulk fermentation time.

https://modernistcuisine.com/recipes/chocolate-and-cherry-sourdough/

 

 

 

 

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lolajl

Question about Bertinet Croissant Recipe

Although he says to shape butter to a 1/2 inch layer, he doesn't say what the size should be. Anyone know?  Ditto for the initial dough shaping. Although he says to roll out the first dough-butter package into 2-3 times longer than the original length (23 1/2 - 27 1/2 inches). So, what's the original length?

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