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The Roadside Pi...

Pizza prep work tonight.

I got some prep work done tonight, first, three 18* pizza pie dough balls, two for the freezer and one for the refrigerator. The refrigerator dough ball has a date with pizza Friday, (48hr. cold ferment.) Additionally, I started a levain build for another batch of baguettes. Tomorrow, it's time for a fresh freezer batch of the pie kings pizza sauce. This #10 can of Stanislaus tomatoes, is the stuff better pizzerias all over the country use. In fact, Califonia based Stanislaus only sells to the trade no retail sized packaging available. I am trying out their ground tomatoes. The last batch I used Stanislaus whole plum tomatoes. This jumbo size #10 tin of tomato will make fifteen 8oz portions of pizza sauce. That's - A - Lot - Of - Pizza Sauce!

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WatertownNewbie

Ciabatta (alfanso/McGee) -- My Bake

A few months after Alan (aka alfanso) posted his bake of the Scott McGee ciabatta, I finally got around to baking the bread.  The result was pleasing, with one loaf consumed at home by my wife and me and the other given away to a neighbor.

I used my KitchenAid Artisan mixer and followed Alan's directions for speed levels, but I have never done French Folds and decided not to make this my first venture into that technique.  Instead, I worked the shaggy dough in the mixing bowl by some hearty hand pulling (think of what Trevor J. Wilson does in his mixing bowls) and observed some nice gluten development already.  The bassinage was interesting.  I opted to combine the water, olive oil, and salt in a Pyrex measuring cup for easy pouring.  The shaggy dough was a little stiff, but when I added a bit of the mixture and the dough loosened, the speed of the mixer let me know to wait until that dose was absorbed.  I repeated that a few times, gradually incorporating the bassinage elements until upping the mixer speed to 6 and then 8.

The dough did not climb the hook very much, and I found that the pauses for scraping down the sides of the bowl seemed to give the dough a chance to recover.  By the end, with the dough slapping around on the 8 speed, the smooth and shiny texture I had been hoping to see was present.  As Alan predicted, the mixer generates some heat in the dough, and my final dough temperature was 83dF.  My water temperatures were 71dF for the initial mix and 65dF for the bassinage, but clearly these could be lowered.  On the other hand, aside from a slightly faster bulk fermentation and final proofing, I do not think that the 83dF made much of a difference from what something like 77dF might have produced.

This is an amazingly billowy dough, but with a lot of strength.  I chose to shape the dough by first dividing the mass into two portions and then flattening each portion into a rectangle and doing a letter fold on each before placing them onto a couche for proofing.  They puffed a bit, but when placed into the oven, they ballooned.

I use lava stones in pie pans for steaming, but I also spray ciabatta before it goes into the oven.  After thirteen minutes I opened the oven door and allowed the steam to escape.  Thereafter I kept an eye on the loaves, which started to darken.  A check of the internal temperatures showed 209dF after another dozen minutes, and ultimately I removed the loaves after a total of thirty-two minutes of baking.

Here are the loaves on the cooling rack.

The crumb has a very pillow-like softness with an assortment of large, small, and medium holes.  The crust is nice and chewy (for me an important characteristic of ciabatta).

These loaves became a deeper darker brown than any other ciabatta that I have baked, and for me that was a big plus.  It is likely that I could leave the loaves in longer the next time and see how dark they can be.  There was no burning on the bottom.

This is a fun recipe, and the dough has a feel of its own.  Thanks to Alan for posting his bake and giving me another option for ciabatta.

Happy Baking.

Ted

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bakingbad

Super Sour Sourdough? Any tips?

Hello you crazy bakers! Hope you're all having marvellous baking days. 

Here in Australia this koala's sourdough adventures are still in full force. I feel I have finally cracked the basic sourdough and have a schedule that is working and giving pretty sweet results. After a year of trial and error, and an expanding waistline, my loaves are pretty good. Ears and everything!

So now here's the thing. 

I would like to make a super sour cheek squeezing sourdough........ Anyone have any top tips for me? Is there a simple trick or is more maths and science?

Any shared knowledge and banter greatly received. 

Thanks from me, not so baking bad theses days!

Katy.

 

 

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bakingbad

The Perfect Sourdough Recipe

I've been baking bad for just over a year now. Sourdough obsession came, peaked and then subsided for a few months whilst travelling. Its back with a vengeance as is my bread!

I came home to a very sorry looking starter. Abandoned for two months it was grey and stinky and had black water covering it. So, I just poured it off, mixed it all together, took a tablespoon and fed it. 

After a few days feeding it bounced right back. Hello bubbles and sweet fruity aromas.

Then I thought I try a new method and found Joshua  Weissman. A little annoying to listen too ( Sorry Joshua)  but easy to follow baking schedule and the best results Ive had in a year. If you haven't already found him here's a link to his website he's on insta and youtube too.

https://slimpalate.com/proper-homemade-bread/

My bread came out of the banneton without sticking. A first. Then it held its shape whilst I gave it the oh so satisfactory light bakers slashes. Also a first. It ballooned in it's glass Dutch oven in record time, growing ears as I watched!

It came out singing. Crackling and popping and with lovely blistery bubbles in the crust. 

Im calling this a personal best. 

It was also delicious.

 

 

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Gpats

Creating a starter in the winter

Hi guys

Fairly new to sourdough baking, I was able to get a starter up and running over the summer and have been baking with it for a while with some fairly decent results, I was actually a little surprised how easy it was to get up and running.

I did however (or should I say my housemate) recently have a little accident and the jar I was storing my started in smashed. I have tried to start again using the exact same method I did previously however its winter here now in Australia and much colder than when I did it last time. I'm almost 2 weeks in and there is still very minimal activity.

Is there anything I should or could be doing differently now that the whether is colder to help my starter along?

Thanks in advance, always amazed at how TFL community are willing to come through and assist novice bakers like myself.

Greg

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Dania alsaid

Looking For A baker

hello, 

I am starting a new bakery in New York and am looking for an experienced baker. Mainly for Italian kaiser rolls and heros. If you are interested in the job or know anyone who is please contact us. 

Thank you! 

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BobbyFourFingers

B&T Proofer, Banneton, with Humidity Tray

I see that the B&T proofer comes with a humidity tray. Is this humidity tray contraindicated when using floured bannetons? 

 

I have concerns that the extra humidity might cause the dough to stick to the floured surface of the banneton.

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Postal Grunt

Caputo is developing a market for a new pizza flour

I just might be the last to find out about a newly marketed flour developed by Caputo. The flour is called Nuvola and is being embraced by pizza makers in Naples and the United States. This article, which is sourced from NPR, gets into the details far better than I can so take a gander. It does sound interesting.

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/06/17/732726329/naples-rolls-out-a-fine-tuned-dough-and-the-new-cloud-pizza-is-born?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campa...

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agres

dark breads

There are recipes in all the standard texts on baking for "dark" breads that call for things like caramel, molasses, coffee, cocoa, and balsamic vinegar. However, I was just looking at a YouTube video on sourdough bread made from fresh milled wheat berries and water, naturally resulting in a dark bread and one of the comments was that there was "too much caramel in the dough". In fact, the dough/bread was the same color I get for sourdough breads from fresh milled whole wheat   As I had another slice of my very dark bread, I thought that putting caramel, molasses, coffee, cocoa, and balsamic vinegar in bread dough is only a poor and sad imitation of the rich colors and flavors that sourdough with fresh milled grain provides.  Can anyone offer an example where things like caramel, molasses, coffee, cocoa, and balsamic vinegar offer a better flavored product than sourdough with fresh milled grain (including malts and various seeds) can provide?

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dannplr

android baking application

Hi,
I made a phone application wich is a tool on the design of breads, leavens and pizzas totally free and without ads. I do not want anything in return, just if you find an interest in using it or talking about it on your blog or forum. It is available at the following address:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=appinventor.ai_anon5561891870815.make_your_bread_Pains_et_pizzas_

it's in french but very easy to undestand and translate.

Thank you

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