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dannydannnn

How to keep a starter in the fridge alive?

I understand how to revive a starter that's kept in the fridge for baking purposes. But what is the process if I just want to feed it and put it back?

My guess would be: take it out, discard down, feed, wait a few hours and stick it back in the fridge. Is that correct? Also, I read somewhere that for fridge storage I should increase the feed (e.g. instead of feeding 100g flour, feed it 200g) to help preservation. Does that make sense?

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AndyPanda

Cleaning the stones on a MockMill 100

I have a MockMill 100 and I use it to grind hard Montana wheat.  (only about one cup of wheat at a time but several times a week).  The grind has slowed down and the quality has suffered recently.   I pulled it apart to look at the stones and they are completely gummed up with what I assume is the oily wheat germ.  It is too gummed up to come clean just by grinding at a coarser setting.   

The top stone comes right off and I was able to get it nice and clean but I'm not sure how (or if it's OK) to remove the bottom stone for cleaning.

I find a hex head screw in the center of the bottom stone and I have the correct size ---- but I don't know:
#1 - is it safe for the end  users to remove that stone for cleaning?

#2 - does screw turn CW or CCW to loosen?

#3 - how do I lock the stone from turning while I loosen the screw?

 

thanks in advance if anyone knows.

EDIT:  Since posting this question, I have managed to clean the stones in place and all is well :)    But I'm still curious to know how to remove the bottom stone if anyone knows.  Thanks!

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DougWeller

Need a substitute for sprouted rye berries

I've got organic rye grain, kibbled rye and cracked rye. 

Thanks.Doug

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Kevin Soviero

Approximating the texture of store-bought whole wheat sandwich bread?

I've successfully made white sandwich bread, but try as I might, I can't even come close to the consistency of store bought whole wheat sandwich bread.

For example: https://www.amazon.com/Oroweat-100-Whole-Wheat-Bread/dp/B000R4JHH6

When looking at the ingredients, the only one that stands out is "WHEAT GLUTEN", however despite using up to 2% wheat gluten in my dough, it still results in a dense loaf that you could bludgeon someone to death with. 

Here is the my most recent attempt:

100% flour, whole wheat

75% milk, whole, warm

15% oil, olive

10% sugar, brown

10% honey

2% vital wheat gluten

2% yeast

2% salt

Steps: knead for 10 minutes, bench rest for 2 hours, transfer to loaf pan, rest until crest rises above edge of pan, bake at 350F until internal temp of 190F. 

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Paigerazzi

Troubleshooting my first sourdough starter

Hello! I have decided to make my own (first ever) sourdough starter and use this time to learn how to bake bread! I am not having success with my starter, and would love troubleshooting help. My (1st) starter is named King and I started using Baker Bettie's protocol, and followed all but on day 1 i used whole wheat, and switched to all purpose (organic/unbleached) on day 2. It smells super vinegary, and almost has no rise, its now day 7.

Day 1: 50g WW flour: 50 g bottled water

Day 2: switched to 50g AP, organic, unfiltered flour and 50 g water (no bubbles, but a little hooch)

Day 3: bubbles! it barely grew, 50g water, 50g flour

Day 4: it gained at most 1/3 its height after 8 hours, but at the 24 hour mark it was down to the original level as the night before. Started 1:3:3 feeding: 25 g starter, 75 g flour: 75 g water

Day 5: in the morning it rose a little, in the evening at 24 hour mark it had less height than the morning, and it smelled of STRONG vinegar (like almost burn my nose hairs!), and was a SOUPY consistency (no line hooch on top).

Day 6: fed 2x this day: in AM minimal to no rise at all and fed at 1:3:3. Less vinegary smell than the evening before. in the PM it still smelled vinegary. No rise. Still thicke soupe consistency.

Day 7: Didn't do a morning feed. Minimal to no rise. Still runny consistency. Coming up on feeding time now and I am wondering -- WHAT variable should I change? Hmmm....

-i finally found some whole wheat flour.

-night temp is 68 degrees and daytime temp has been 70-74 degrees (on top of fridge).

-should I change the feeding timing, ratio of feeds, type of flour? 

Any suggestions would be helpful :)

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albacore

Starter/Levain Build Ratio Conventions

It seems that a build ratio of (for example) 1:4:4 means different things to different bakers. I have always worked to the convention of starter:flour:water - by weight of course - but others use starter:water:flour.

Of course in the above exampe it doesn't matter, but if the starter was 75% hydration it would be 1:4:3 or 1:3:4.

I realise there's not going to be a right or wrong here, but what do others think?

PS: A quick look at Full Proof Baking's Instagram pages suggests she's in my camp!

Lance

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Gwen

Butterfly pea sourdough

I've been baking for a while and I want to try a butterfly pea sourdough. What is the best practice in order to get the dramatic color? With my sourdoughs I use Tartine's recipes. Should I lower the whole wheat flour? Should I add the blue water early on like normal or substitute it at a different time?

Thanks.

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Arno

Ankarsrum Grain Mill Feedback

Good afternoon All,

 

After several years of mixing by hands my sourdough dough, thanks to your help, I bought the Ankarsrum mixer about a year ago, as my first dough mixer. 

I was offered by a bakery, some 2kg of Rye flour, milled in front of me... I followed my usual recipe and the bread had such a different taste, sort of more sweet, and so flavourful.

I decided to buy a mill. Knowing that I bake about 1kg of dough per week (loaf, baguette, sandwich), and my kitchen is super small, I was wondering if I could start with the Ankarsrum Grain mill... I read the few reviews on the web, the reviews are very mixed, some love it, some are even saying you can mill fine enough for bread making. 
I use mainly Rye, Wholewheat, and white flour currently. I add some seeds like pumpkin, sunflower...

Do you guys have ever used it? Is it worth it for GBP100? Will the flour be fine enough for my amateur sourdough bread making?

Thank you so much for your help guys

Just in case here the link to the Ankarsrum accessories 

https://ankarsrum.co.uk/collections/accessories/products/ankarsrum-assistent-original-flour-and-coffee-grinder

 

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bread1965

80% Whole Wheat +

The quarantine bread bake diaries continue..

This loaf is an 80% whole wheat, 10% whole mystery flour, 10% AP using 20% levain and a same day bake. I had a small amount of whole flour but don't know if it was whole rye or whole spelt - probably spelt.  I fed the starter Tuesday night and Wednesday morning and mixed the dough around 2pm. I baked it around 10pm. It moved fast given the high whole wheat content. I also added 2% gluten flour and home made diastolic malt. 80% water. I kept the dough at 74 degrees during bulk and proof.

It gave off a great aroma while baking, the crumb is uniformly open and it's super soft. Total flour was only 450g but this loaf expended way more than I thought it would during proof and it almost didn't fit into my combo cooker.

I've been trying to push whole wheat to 100% gradually and will the next time I get my hands on some whole wheat flour. Sadly I'm out so I'll be baking without for a while. It's a great bread.

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Terje Kaspersen

Pain de Campagne FWSY no oven spring

So I made this bread yesterday following the instructions in the book. The levain was very active, about tripled. Bulk ferment about 3,5 hours. The dough had increased 2,5 the size as per the book. 

 

When I got to the shaping the dough looked nice and airy, supple and pillowy. No signs of over fermentation. But it was real sticky and the shaping was a mess. The dough developed little tension and I only managed to shape it into a slack boule. I gave up, put it in the fridge for 12 hours and baked it the prescribed time. 

 

This was the result. Can I assume the lack of oven spring was due to bad shaping or is it possible there was other problems that made the loaf dense and not spring?

 

Hope to hear from you. PS posted this on Reddit as well but I suspect this is the better place to ask for advice. 

(edited name of book in title)

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