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DanAyo

Tip - How to stop Email Notification on any topic.

It has come to my attention that some users innocently reply to an active Topic and soon after are barraged by un-wanted email notifications.

THERE IS A SIMPLE SOLUTION

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Some Topics are active and get very large with many post. If a user replies to ANY post they will (by default) receive email notifications for all new replies. If you post a reply and you find that the notifications are more than you would like you can either (1) opt out or (2) recieve replies to your post only. See image below.

To change your email notification settings you can “edit” any of your previous post to the particular topic in order to alter the settings. 

Sean posted another simple solution, “When you receive an email there should be a link to deactivate all notifications. No need to find your comment and edit it.

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Benito

Poppyseed Crusted Purple Sweet Potato Sourdough Sandwich Bread.

I’ve only slightly modified this recipe I saw Kristen post on Instagram.  I added a poppyseed crust to the bread because I thought that it would go quite well with the flavour of this bread and I was right.  My family did really like the bread and we had some good sandwiches on it.

This was only the 2nd sourdough sandwich loaf I’ve made. And perhaps only my 3rd sandwich loaf ever.  My first sourdough sandwich loaf was underproofed and was posted last year on my blog.  

This was quite delicious, I love the colour of the crumb which was soft and springy.  I’m not sure I like the density around the sides and bottom of the loaf, does anyone know how to fix that?  Is this normal?

 

For my 8.5” x 4.5” pan

 

Levain build overnight 80ºF 

12 g starter + 72  g flour + 40 g water

 

Morning combine 115 g levain, 250 g water 204 g bread flour, 74 g AP flour and 74 g whole wheat flour.

Mix in mixer low speed for 8 min with dough hook.  Rest 45 min covered.

Add in 9.25 g salt and 28 g brown sugar and knead 5 min low speed dough hook.

Then add in, a little at a time, 37 g unsalted room temp butter.  Knead until well combined.

Laminate dough on counter and add 111 g mashed steamed purple sweet potatoes.

Slap and fold to combine.

Move to bulk dishes.  One coil fold about 1 hour later.

 

Once doubled, tip out onto floured counter and pat out bubbles. 

Shape as a batard, the roll the top of the shaped dough on a wet towel and then onto a cookie sheet covered with poppyseeds.  Then place the dough seam side down, seeds up in the loaf pan.  

Going on autopilot here, I accidentally placed the dough seam side up, seeds down as you would in a banneton.  This was then a challenge to fix and probably compromised the tension of the skin.

Proof covered until dough rises to rim of tins.

Slash with lame, spritz with water and bake.

Preheat oven to 425 for about 30 min, then bake for 25 min at 400.  Turn down oven to 350 and bake until browned 35 mins.  no steam is used.

 

 

Rub the top crust with butter when done and still warm.  Let cool in tin for 1 hour then remove and cool on rack until fully cooled before slicing.

 

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DanAyo

Suggestions for Community Bakes

Ever since the influx of new bakers from the Corona Virus our Community Bakes have exploded in one respect and digressed in another. By that I mean that much fewer bakers have participated, but those that did were extremely active. In an effort to have more bakers join the event we are reaching out to everyone that may possibly be interested, and soliciting comments and suggestions.

  • What would you like to see in upcoming Community Bakes
  • In your opinion, are there any deterrents in past Community Bakes that prevented you from participation

The goal of all Community Bakes is learning together and from each other to bake a specific bread better. If anyone feels “unqualified” to join in, please understand, these bakes are not a competition. Every baker of any skill level is welcome and encouraged to join in. When it comes to flops and silly questions I am probably at the top of the list :-)

If you would consider participating in our Community Bakes, let us know how we can improve.

Danny

 

The following are links to our Community Bakes

 

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WSC_SF

Central Milling flour T 70, 80 85 110, why so many types?

I just bought some 5Lb bag of CM flour types to try.

I wonder what the different types of organic flour are all about?  70, 80, 85, malted, wheat flour...?

Here is what I believe I know:

number (70,80 85,110)= ash %

the malt-- for increasing enzymatic activities

My questions are:

-- why so many different types? does 70 taste very different from 80? How about 80 and 85?  Why did they formulate so many different types?

-- Why would some bakers NOT want to have malt?

-- Does type 110 ( higher number) resemble more whole wheat flour?

I didn't find their website very helpful. Several of the flours have almost identical description... 

Thanks for helping me understand!

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hlord

Rye flour protein content

Is there a way for the amateur, home rye flour miller (me) to determine the protein and ash content of flour? Stated another way, how can I mill white, medium, and dark rye flour? In the future I'd also like to be able to determine the protein content of wheat flour - as in milling all-purpose, bread, high-gluten, and first clear flours. Thanks.

Harvey

 

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ElsaM

Pressure-caramelized oat bread by Modernist Cuisine

Made this loaf by Francisco Migoya because I was curious what the wheat gluten may add to the texture!

I don't think I saw much difference in the final bread texture.. If not, I found the crumb to be more dense that I am used to in loaves.

I read that it can help in breads using flour with less gluten (rye..). Maybe it's cause I used bread flour?

I was wondering if anyone had experimented with wheat gluten with good results?

 

Thanks :)

 

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Emmalhair

High hydration newbie and tight crumb

Hi all,

I’m new here - wondering if anyone can offer some advice. I’ve started experimenting with high hydration sourdough (today’s loaf is 82%) and thought I would be rewarded with a beautiful open crumb - alas. It’s still fairly tight with a few larger holes.
Does anyone have any ideas on what I might be doing wrong or could do differently for a slightly more even and more open crumb? 

My recipe is roughly as follows:

450g Shipton no.4

50g Rye

400g water @ around 35c

100 levain (25g white starter with 10% rye then fed with 50g rye and 50g water)

12g salt

- 30 min autolyse, levain added with rubaud mix method until incorporated, salt added and mixed again with rubaud. 
5-6 coil folds - started about 20 mins after salt added then subsequent folds done again when dough has relaxed each time - tends to be around 20/30/45/1hr/1hr between folds. 
bulk around 21C-23C for 5-6 hours until dough is billowy (never really sure how far to take this)

Shape into batard (usually no preshape as dough feels strong) and overnight retard at 3C then bake next AM.

Thanks in advance!

 

 

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Isand66

Purple Sweet Potato Rolls

 

 

I love using potatoes in bread.  It gives the final product a nice soft and moist crumb.  It is supposed to also prevent staling, but I usually freeze half or more so I have never tested that theory out.  I've made this recipe before but this time I upped the amount of freshly ground spelt and reduced the amount of whole wheat.  I was very happy with the end result. The purple sweet potato is not as high in water content as the orange style and not as sweet, but it does add a wonderful texture to the bread that is worth trying.

 

These make perfect sandwich or burger buns and of course dinner rolls.  I topped mine with an egg wash and then some everything bagel topping and also some with toasted onions.

 

I hope you give these a try and let me know what you think.

 

 

 

 

Here are the Zip files for the above BreadStorm files.

 

 

Levain Directions

 

Mix all the levain ingredients together  for about 1 minute and cover with plastic wrap.  Let it sit at room temperature for around 7-8 hours or until the starter has doubled.  I used my proofer set at 83 degrees and it took about 4 hours.   You can use it immediately in the final dough or let it sit in your refrigerator overnight.

 

 Main Dough Procedure

 

Mix the flours  and the sweet potato with 90% of the water for about 1 minute.  Let the rough dough sit for about 20 minutes to an hour.  Next add the levain, olive oil, salt and the balance of the water and mix on low for 5 minutes.   Remove the dough from your bowl and place it in a lightly oiled bowl or work surface and do several stretch and folds.  Let it rest covered for 10-15 minutes and then do another stretch and fold.  Let it rest another 10-15 minutes and do one additional stretch and fold.  After a total of 2 hours place your covered bowl in the refrigerator and let it rest for 12 to 24 hours.  (Since I used my proofer I only let the dough sit out for 1.5 hours before refrigerating).

 

When you are ready to bake remove the bowl from the refrigerator and let it set out at room temperature still covered for 1.5 to 2 hours.  Remove the dough and shape as desired.

 

The dough will take 1.5 to 2 hours depending on your room temperature and will only rise about 1/3 it's size at most.  Let the dough dictate when it is read to bake not the clock.

 

Around 45 minutes before ready to bake, pre-heat your oven to 500 degrees F. and prepare it for steam.  I have a heavy-duty baking pan on the bottom rack of my oven with 1 baking stone on above the pan and one on the top shelf.  I pour 1 cup of boiling water in the pan right after I place the dough in the oven.

 

Right before you are ready to put them in the oven, score as desired and then add 1 cup of boiling water to your steam pan or follow your own steam procedure.

 

Lower the temperature to 445 degrees.  Bake for 25-35 minutes until the rolls are nice and brown.  You can check the internal temperature and make sure they are at least 200 degrees F.

 

Take the rolls out of the oven when done and let it cool on a bakers rack before  before eating if you can resist!

 

Below is the nice moist and colorful crumb.

 

 

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Isand66

Durum Egg Porridge Bread II

   I love this bread.  I've made this one many times and this is similar to my other version but I increased the amount of fresh whole wheat flour and used honey instead of maple syrup.

This has a similar flavor to a challah bread but has much more flavor from the whole grain porridge and combo of fresh milled durum and whole wheat flour.  It's a great sandwich bread and makes amazing French Toast!

Here is the BreadStorm Link

Levain Directions

Mix all the levain ingredients together  for about 1 minute and cover with plastic wrap.  Let it sit at room temperature for around 7-8 hours or until the starter has doubled.  I used my proofer set at 83 degrees and it took about 4 hours.   You can use it immediately in the final dough or let it sit in your refrigerator overnight.

Porridge Directions

Add about 3/4's of the milk called for in the porridge to the dry ingredients in a small pot set to low and stir constantly until all the liquid is absorbed.  Add the remainder of the milk and keep stirring until you have a nice creamy and soft porridge.  Remove from the heat and let it come to room temperature before adding to the dough.  I put mine in the refrigerator and let it cool quicker.

 Main Dough Procedure

Mix the flours  and the water for about 1 minute.  Let the rough dough sit for about 20 minutes to an hour.  Next add the levain, cooled porridge, eggs honey and salt and mix on low for 4minutes.  Remove the dough from your bowl and place it in a lightly oiled bowl or work surface and do several stretch and folds.  Let it rest covered for 10-15 minutes and then do another stretch and fold.  Let it rest another 10-15 minutes and do one additional stretch and fold.  After a total of 2 hours place your covered bowl in the refrigerator and let it rest for 12 to 24 hours.  (Since I used my proofer I only let the dough sit out for 1.5 hours before refrigerating).

When you are ready to bake remove the bowl from the refrigerator and let it set out at room temperature still covered for 1.5 to 2 hours.  Remove the dough and shape as desired.

The dough will take 1.5 to 2 hours depending on your room temperature and will only rise about 1/3 it's size at most.  Let the dough dictate when it is read to bake not the clock.

Around 45 minutes before ready to bake, pre-heat your oven to 545 degrees F. and prepare it for steam.  I have a heavy-duty baking pan on the bottom rack of my oven with 1 baking stone on above the pan and one on the top shelf.  I pour 1 cup of boiling water in the pan right after I place the dough in the oven.

Right before you are ready to put them in the oven, score as desired and then add 1 cup of boiling water to your steam pan or follow your own steam procedure.

Lower the temperature to 450 degrees.  Bake for 35-50 minutes until the crust is nice and brown and the internal temperature of the bread is 205 degrees.

Take the bread out of the oven when done and let it cool on a bakers rack before for at least 2 hours before eating.

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monkiBonki

Ridding the dough of thiols - but what is what of 5:3:5?

My dough turn to batter, so better go to battle.

Found here on forum the cure beeing feeding thrice a day and keep it in the refrigerator (for some 10 days) 

Now, feeding 5:3:5 does tell us the ratio but not the components. Well, starter, water and flour one can surmise, but witchoneiswhat? s:f:w? f:w:s?.. 

Is it removing excess starter until, say, 50g is left, add 30 g of water and another 50g but this time flour?

Thanks in advance! 

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