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bezerkben

Proofing issue?

Hey guys!

 

I’m having a really hard time with this and could use some help. I am currently making burger buns around 100 grams with multiple doughs (all have 1% instant active yeast). I’m constantly getting large air pockets at the top of SOME of the buns, I would say about 20-30%. I mix the dough till fully developed,  let rise for 2-3 hours then cold ferment the dough overnight till the next morning where I shape proof and bake. I don’t feel or see any large air pockets when shaping. I have tried warm and ambient temp proofs but all still have air pockets. 

please advise!  

thank you very much!!!! 

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DanAyo

Low Calorie Sugar Substitutes for Bread Baking

Made Del’s Hawaiian Sweet Bread today using Monk Fruit No Calorie Sweetener for baked goods. I decided to give the Monk Fruit a try since it worked so well with the Bran Muffins and Banana Bread. It was a complete flop! I think the bran muffins baked up so sweet and well because baking soda and baking powder was used instead of commercial yeast or sourdough. The Hawaiian Bread used commercial yeast.

I ran a comparative test to prove the theory. The procedure is outlined HERE. Both glasses were identical with the exception of 1 teaspoon sugar in one and 1 teaspoon Monk Fruit in the other. 

NOTE - SAF Gold (osmotolerant yeast) was used for the test. 

Now I KNOW why I got bricks.

Bottom Line -
For those bakers that are calorie conscious, No Calorie Sweeteners are outstanding for muffins, Banana Breads, or anyother baked goods that rely on baking soda and baking powder, but awful for commercially yeasted breads.

 

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Kistida

Butter toasted oat and honey loaf, Cozonac and cakes

I did more cooking than baking these last 3 weeks. But I did manage to squeeze in some bakes. My husband said he likes oat and honey breads too (this is after telling me he liked the swirly soft loaves and crusty ones, flat ones..) So, I set out to make him something to taste test, so far I've made these loaves with and without discards; 5 loaves later, it's safe to say he likes this bread! I love the hint and smell of honey in this bread. Also, they keep me full! Baked at 160-180°C 45-50 minutes (I use a glass loaf pan).

   

In between these loaves, I managed to make a lightly sweetened Cozonac (also baked at 160-180°C 45-50 minutes) and steam-baked sponge cakes.

 
Adapted from: https://www.shelovesbiscotti.com/romanian-easter-christmas-bread-cozonac/ For the Cozonac filling: Over medium heat whisk together milk, sugar and walnuts. Stir continuously until the mixture thickens slightly. Add the *rest of the ingredients and continue stirring until it thickens to a sticky paste. 

*adjust espresso or cocoa powder to taste. 

 

Orange sponge on the left used a 2-egg recipe, was mixed a little bit too carelessly (white spots here in there due to unmixed egg whites) while the coffee one on the right, 3-egg recipe, rose beautifully as I was gently folding the mixtures. Both were steam baked in 6" round pans. 3-egg version is loftier (also gives more cake!) So happy these were soft and spongy! Baked at 160°C in a water bath for 50-60 minutes.

    
Steamed rice cakes for next week, when I find some ingredients in Ottawa. :) Happy weekend everyone.    

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Ilya Flyamer

Semolina milk bread

To continue the story of milk/sandwich bread, I decided to change it all up, and tried using semolina in the dough, to finally add an egg, increase the hydration (~70%), and do a double rise. Also made two loaves, but each was much smaller. Due to scheduling, I had to do a long retard too. Here is the formula: https://fgbc.dk/1moj

I made the dough late afternoon, left for a few minutes to hydrate, kneaded with slap and folds and thenand let it rise about 40% (in a straight sided container) at 28°C. Then it was late, and I shaped it and retarded until next evening, when I took them out of the fridge and proofed at 28°C again until about double in size. Brushed with egg and sprinkled with sesame seeds on top. Baked at 180°C on the lowest rack with top and bottom heat. Barely any oven spring, essentially just enough to smooth out any irregularities in the shape of the loaves.



I love their look and the colour from semolina, and the crumb is just a little more open due to higher hydration. Not sure the higher hydration is worth it for this style of bread (tbh I just wanted to finish the bottle of milk we had and decided to try and see what happens if I don't adjust the flour, not specifically planned this), but I'd say the crumb is still sufficiently tight for PB&Js, for example. And the flavour is great. The semolina adds a little bit of that nuttiness, which is nice, although it somewhat disappears into background when using strong flavours for toppings. And a little sprinkle of sesame seeds is a nice addition!

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albacore

Starting All Over Again

Starting All Over Again

I've been hit by a mystery starter affliction. The starter, levain and dough would rise well and in a timely manner. But when the dough went into the oven, loft and oven spring were poor.

I've no real understanding of why this has happened as my starter is well maintained. The only thing I can think of is a possible lack of calcium; I switched from a starter feeding mix of 90% BF/10% WG rye to using 100% high extraction wheat flour (home ground and sifted). In the UK, bread flour (well, nearly ALL flour) is fortified with calcium carbonate. Since I was using tap water and our water is very soft there may have been a shortage of calcium in the starter refreshes after I switched flours.

Anyway, I decided to build a new starter and see if that cured the problem.

I made the starter from 50g freshly milled high extraction flour (90% wheat/10% rye), 0.2g malt and 35g spring water. This was stored at 30C for 24hrs, at which point it was looking nice and active.

This is how it looked after after a couple more builds, 2.5 days after starting:

 

 

What I noticed is that the new starter is a lot more frothy than the old one - there seems to be more gas production.

And the bread has a much better, fluffier crumb:

 

 

Lance

 

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bimfitwo

Egg yolks only

I have been baking a brioche-type sweet roll for quite a few years. This recipe calls for ONLY egg yolks. I have been diligently cracking eggs and freezing the egg whites for some future use. But, I can only freeze so much, and eating the whites gets pretty old after a while.

When I used to work at a hotel's bakery department, we used to get liquid egg yolks in quart containers. I know that I want to use this type of product, but I need to experiment with one or two batches before I commit to using them.

Unfortunately everywhere that I've looked online wants me to commit or purchase 30 pounds, or one case of them. I need to find a retail store that sells just the egg yolks in a small container. Does anyone know of any retailers (grocery stores) that sell this product? 

Thanks!

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mpghm

Scoring question

After making (dutch oven) boules for a while, I've moved to batards, but I find scoring tricky - the cuts open up quite wide right away and then harden, leading to blow-outs along the base of the bread instead.

See the cut on the right for example. The cut on the left worked better.

Too deep cut, too shallow? Too much steam or too little? I know the cuts should be shallower, would that fix it?

 

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NickM79

Diamant Grain Mill How-to?

Hello everyone!

So, several years ago I decided we needed to get a grain mill and have been working ourselves up to the purchase for a long time. I figured it would be best to wait and put the extra money into a top-of-the-line mill, hence our purchase of a Diamant 525 (ooooooh aaaaaaaah). Well, when you buy something this high end, it's apparent that they expect you to know what you are doing and wouldn't you know it, the information on how to use it was pretty slim. Most of the stuff I've found on the internet are more demonstrations on the unit than anything, with no real "how-tos".

Any major does and don'ts besides adjusting it too fine and messing up the burs? To make matters worse, we are also a little new to baking bread with freshly ground whole grains...so double whammy on the learning curve for us. We did get hard red wheat berries because they were half the price. Any links, videos, suggestions on where to start?

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Nick

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kapawlak

100% Freshly Milled Whole Wheat Sourdough (80% Hydration)

Well, I am pleased with the rise on this one despite the slight over proof :). 



Specs:
80% Hydration. 
100% Central Milling Hard Red Wheat Berries Twice milled (Mockmill), no sift. 6 Hour Autolyze
20% Wild Sourdough Starter
5% Ground Rosemary + Coriander Seeds, folded in during coil folds
2.2% Salt

Final shape -> Fridge overnight.
Baked first thing in the morning in my covered aluminum roasting pan contraption with a tiny pizza stone in it.
Loaded at 525F -> bake at 500F for 15 minutes -> Remove loaf and place in oven at 430F for 25 min or until finished

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GeorgiaO92

Starter not falling

Hi all,

I am new to making sourdough bread. This is my starter. I made it yesterday and as you can see it’s tripled in size. I have not fed it but it does appear to be slowing down. Do I feed it tomorrow and if it grows again to this current size, will it be ready?

I think there may also be a little hooch developing at the bottom? 

Thank you!

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