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HeiHei29er

Overnight Heirloom Red

Trying different grains now that I have the Mockmill 200, and this week, I experimented with Turkey Red and Red Fife.  Recipe was my standard overnight sourdough recipe with equal parts of Turkey Red and Red Fife as the whole grain component.  The grains were milled to pass through a #40 sieve.  Result was about 95% extraction.  The bran collected was then scalded and used in the final mix.  Real happy with how they turned out externally.  Nice blisters and bloom.  On one of the doughs, I tried using a modified version of Danni's shaping method to use with an oval banneton, and I think it has potential!  No idea if I can repeat it, but I'm happy with how the first one turned out.  :-)

Crumb shot tomorrow after it's sat for 24 hours.

Makes one loaf...

Final Dough
225g   All-Purpose Flour (KA) - 50%
135g   Bread Flour (KA) - 30%
36g     Turkey Red (Janie's Mill) - 8%
36g    Red Fife (Janie's Mill) - 8%
18g    Barley Flour (Food to Live) - 4%
68g    Raisin Yeast Water - 15%
248g  Water - 55%
9g      Himalayan Pink Salt - 2%
18g    Mature Starter Culture - 4%

1)    Mix: Combine all ingredients and mix until flour is wetted.  Place in covered bowl.
2)    Saltolyse: 60 minutes to hydrate whole grains
3)    Moderate Gluten Development: 2 x 50 FF with 5 minute rest between sets
4)    Bulk Fermentation: 76 deg F, Coil folds every 60 minutes until dough starts to get puffy (8-9 hours).  Continue bulk until dough has expanded 75-80%.
5)    Preshape: Shape into a boule.  Tighten the boule as needed to assure dough has some structure.
6)    Bench Rest: 15-20 minutes
7)    Final Shape: Boule or Oval
8)    Final Proof: 76-77 deg F until the dome of the dough is slightly above the top of the banneton.  (It's hard for me to convey a good end point to others.  I go by visual expansion (50-75%) and the dough being "jiggly").  Usually takes 1.5-2 hours.
9)    Cold Retard: Refrigerate overnight
10)   Bake: Pre-heat oven at 460 deg F for 45 minutes with baking steel in place and oven vent plugged; turn out dough on parchment, mist dough surface, and score; place dough on baking steel and pour 3/4 cup boiling water in steam tray; bake 450 deg F (10 minutes), 425 deg F (10 minutes); vent oven; 425 deg F (10-15 minutes).

 

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Econprof

Something different: fried sourdough breads from Multan

Here is a recipe that I tried a while ago, but wanted to share with this community. It is new and different for me, and I thought it might be for many others as well. I also wanted to see whether anyone knows of any similar breads (using a similar starter, but maybe different shape or cooking method). 

This is a traditional recipe from Multan, Pakistan. It uses a special type of yeast water made with black cardamom, fennel, poppy seeds, sugar, and chana dal (split hulled chickpeas). I'm no expert with yeast water, so I don't know how it compares to other types, but the spices really seemed to give a special flavor and fragrance to the dough. Making the yeast water was the hard part--my first attempt didn't work, and my second attempt took longer than the recipe specifies (maybe temperature wasn't warm enough). After that, the procedure is simple. You make a simple dough, roll it into small rounds, and fry it. I let the dough rise a bit after it was shaped, although the recipe doesn't require this. 

I tried both the filled version and the plain version. The ones in the photo were filled, but the plain ones also puffed up nicely. As I recall, I preferred the plain because I didn't want distractions from the flavor of the dough. I also tried both 100% whole wheat and a 50-50 white/WW mix. Both were good.

Although I haven't tried it, I suspect that you could adapt the recipe for baking instead of frying. Maybe the simplest thing would be to bake the rounds on a hot stone like pitas. I may try this next time. 

Here is the recipe: https://www.archanaskitchen.com/doli-ki-roti-recipe 

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Martadella

Staropoleski bread, day 1

About this bread (in Russian and in Polish) :

https://registrr.livejournal.com/102092.html

https://przepisynadomowyserichleb.blogspot.com/2018/11/wiejski-chleb-zytni-staropoleski.html?m=1

This is one of my favorite breads to make. Very low tech and suits perfectly my own simple style of baking

I made scald and liquid starter. Now it's in the oven with the light bulb on and hopefully will be ready to make a preferment in about 24-36 hours or so.

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The Roadside Pi...

Calm before the storm, pizza bake.

Friday night, less is more pizza pie. Three  kinds of Italian cheese  Locatelli Pecorino Romano, Grande East coast blend Mozzarella, and a hit of Parmigiano Regiano finishing cheese, (post bake) 

 Now That's-A-Nice-A-Pizza pie! 

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Josh_F

Inconsistent results with levain boules

This novice would appreciate advice on some challenges I'm having baking with levain. Yesterday, I tried a version of Ken Forkish's FWSY Overnight Country Brown recipe, which I adapted due to concerns about overfermentation expressed in other posts. Essentially, I used his recipe but shortened the bulk fermentation and tried an overnight proof in the fridge. The results were better than my first try (which produced flat but tasty loaves), but only one of the loaves rose much in the oven, and the crumb with very large holes is a bit odd. 

The formula is 70% white flour (KA AP), 30% whole wheat flour (KA), 78% water, 2.2% salt, and 12% of the total flour is levain (that I prepared using Forkish's methods).

1. I began with autolyse for 30 min followed by mixing the dough with pincher method. Dough temp at this point was 75 degrees (a bit cool despite using warmer water than the recipe calls for). 

2. I did four stretch and folds and then bulk fermented by putting the tub in the oven on the proof setting. Oven temp in this setting is about 75-80 degrees. 

3. Following TFL guidance, I watched the dough carefully (including a 30 g aliquot in a small container), with the goal of stopping BF when the dough was approach twice its volume. The dough seemed to rise to about 125% after 2 hours but then seemed to stop. After close to 8 hours after mixing, the dough remained only perhaps 125% of its initial volume, and I decided to stop, as some posts had tables suggesting a fermentation a bit shorter than this for this formula. 

4. I divided and shaped the dough, put in proofing baskets, and put into the fridge for 9-10 hours.

5. After proofing in the fridge, the dough had shrunk down and was a bit difficult to extract from the baskets. But I managed to pry the loaves out intact, score them, and baked them in two dutch ovens at 475.

As shown above, one loaf seemed to open up and rise, while the other didn't have much spring. Taste is delicious, but the crumb is somewhat odd with many large holes but areas with less aeration.

Am I completely off track with this approach? Could there something wrong with my levain, such that the dough doesn't rise during BF? Does the odd appearance of the crumb point to a specific technical problem my approach? Or is my "good" loaf what I should expect for levain boule with 30% whole wheat? 

 

 

 

 

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Bookish

Hello from Bookish

Hi! I'm Bookish and I'm an amateur baker. I just bought a Zojirushi Virtuoso Plus because my cat killed my beloved 31-year-old DAK bread machine by shoving it off its shelf. I'm on a low sodium diet for medical reasons so I'm always looking for low sodium recipes. (Not NO salt; just a lot less salt.) I have arthritis, hence the need for a machine to do the hard part for me, but I do make breads that don't need much kneading.

Yesterday I made the 12-grain bread from the Virtuoso Plus recipe book, reducing the salt and the yeast just a little bit, and it came out almost perfect. Next time I'll reduce the salt and yeast further and see how it goes.

I'm a big fan of Peter Reinhart, Kenji Lopez-Alt, and especially Donald (Don) Gazzaniga whose low sodium cookbooks have been very helpful.

I look forward to participating here in the forums.

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Gadjowheaty

Rubaud Pain au Levain - No FFs

Redundant because I've done this bread quite a bit, but a new experience in that I relied solely on the KA, plus the regular accordion folds, for development.   Usually I rely on the KA minimally - to mix roughly for autolyse, then to incorporate the levain and salt just barely before doing hundreds of FF's.  

Lingering heart issues make it difficult to do FF's in the way I used to (at least  for now).  So I thought I'd see it through with just using my humble 4.5 tilt-head with the after-market spiral dough hook.  KA 1 x 4 minutes, KA 2 x 3 minutes, where I checked for what I call "90% windowpane," a habit learned from Hamelman's recommendation to take the dough up to but not all the way in the mixer bowl, finishing development by a fold or two.  I would normally have developed the dough almost completely through FF's and accordion folds in the bulk fermentation bins.

Here, after this KA improved mix, my normal accordion folds:  every 30 minutes x 2 hours, every hour to 4 hours (in this case).  Proof was 1 1/4 hours, surprised me a bit as I expected longer.

What have I learned?  I must craft a way to justify a dedicated "knetemaschine" without getting killed by my wife.

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sadears

Cold house

I'm renting a house in Colorado that was built in the late 1800s. It's been updated. But the heaters are actually air conditioners that heat by drawing air from outside. They work for the most part, but more often than not the kitchen is less than 70 degrees. 

I had a lot of trouble with my SD starter. Even with the stove light on, it didn't do well. Then, I read a post from @Janknitz who recommended heating water, then putting both water and SD in the microwave. I put them in a small cooler with the lid shut. It worked great. Now, I want to bake, I find I have the same issue with rising. Dough rises, but not as much or as fast as I think it should. I read in a post (not sure by whom) about putting it in the oven with the light on. The light in my rental oven is burned out.  It's snowing. And I don't feel like trudging out in it. But I want to start my baking process today.

Any ideas how to keep my dough warm while rising? I suppose I could do the same as I did with the starter, but with a larger cooler.  Guess it's a good thing I'm planning to make smaller loaves this time. Thoughts?

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margoooo

Why is Sourdough Bread is healthier than yeasted Bread

If high temperature in the oven would kill all bacteria and yeast, why the Sourdough Bread is healthy?

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DanAyo

Bouabsa w/Poolish

I wanted to try including a Poolish in a Bouabsa bread. The night before a Poolish was made using a pinch of CY in a 100% hydrated pre-ferment. It tripled overnight and looked perfect for mixing the next morning.

The gluten was developed in a mixer and was folded 3 times at 30-45 min intervals. Dough was smooth and supple. It was shaped and placed into a pullman pan to BF. The dough was mixed and folded over a period of ~3.5 hr at ~69F. It was shaped and panned and placed in the proofer (set to 78F) for 3 hr, then raised temp to 80F and later raised to 84F after a total of 6hr in the proofer the dough has not risen much. Estimate 2.25-2.5X. I expected it to rise an inch or so below the rim, but it is only slightly less than half capacity.

NOTE - no additional CY was added when the dough was mixed. Was under the impression that the Poolish would bring enough yeast into the Final Dough.

  1. Does anyone have thoughts as to why the dough is not rising to expectations? 
  2. Is it feasible to use only a pinch of CY in the Poolish and none there after, or should additional CY be added during the mix of the Final Dough?

The great majority of my breads us SD only, so experience with CY is lacking.

Thanks,
Danny

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