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What kind of whole wheat flour to get for bread?

May 19, 2009 - 1:14pm -- chykcha

I have read somewhere here about people ordering whole wheat flour from people, who grow organic wheat and grind it to your specifications right before mailing it to you.  I am about to order a 10lb bag to try, but don't know how they should grind it.  I bake whole wheat bread, including sourdough.  I would appreciate any advice.  Thanks!

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Hodgson Mill Whole Wheat Graham Flour

May 2, 2009 - 5:08pm -- foolishpoolish

Back in the US, and making bread here for the first time. I'm still learning about the flours available to me. For WW flour, I've been initially drawn to Hodgson Mill Whole Wheat Graham flour (it has the large bran/germ that I am used to seeing from traditional stoneground flours). KA Traditional, by comparison, has a somewhat finer consistency and Bronze Chief seems ridiculously finely ground - totally alien to me, although I'm sure it performs well! 

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loving Hamelman's pain au levain with whole wheat!

April 29, 2009 - 7:10am -- MommaT


Having been on the great quest for that perfect daily bread for my family, I think I'm getting closer.

I've been baking Hamelman's Pain au Levain now and again with mixed reviews from the family.  I recently tried the pain au levain with whole wheat and it has been a massive hit!  The flours here are split between 75% bread flour, 20% whole wheat flour and 5% medium rye.     My starter seems to really love the warmer weather of spring and this dough bursts to life.  I wish I had photos to show you!

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Whole Wheat Pizza Dough Recipe

April 15, 2009 - 6:31pm -- spickers

Hi.  I'm new to this forum but have been baking my own whole wheat bread for 5 years now.  I love it!  I own a Bosch and a Nutrimill.  I am looking for a good recipe for making whole wheat pizza dough.  I've never made my own pizza dough and would like to start.  I always weigh my bread dough and was wondering how many oucnes pizza dough should weigh?  What about if I wanted to make individual calazones as much should they weigh?


Sharon Pickersgill =)

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How do I make a stiff whole wheat dough

April 8, 2009 - 9:58am -- louiscohen

When I try to make bialys, I get too much oven spring - they poof up like round dinner rolls.  In the latest batch, 66% whole wheat no less, the center depression with the onions and poppy seeds sprang up higher than the outer rim.

I suspect that my dough was too soft, ie too much hydration.  

Does anyone have a formula for a very stiff whole wheat dough (doesn't have to be 100% WW, but that would be fine), and/or instructions for shaping/proofing/baking that minimize the oven spring?


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Today's bake was Daniel Leader's Whole Wheat Genzano Country Bread, from his Local Breads book.  This bread combines a biga naturale for flavor with yeast for shorter, more predictable fermentation times.

The formula is straight-forward: the biga, water, equal parts whole wheat and bread flours, salt and yeast.  Final hydration works out to about 77%.  Based on Leader's description of the dough, I was expecting something almost in the ciabatta realm.  It turned out to be less gloppy than a ciabatta dough, perhaps because of the extra absorbency of the whole wheat flour.  Still, it was definitely better handled by the mixer than by hand.  I'm a little leery of his mixing directions, though.  First, he recommends an 10-minute run at speed 8 on a Kitchen Aid, followed by an 8-10 minute run at speed 10.  I didn't run it quite that long, or quite that fast, since I was seeing good gluten development.  Plus, the dough was clearing the sides of the bowl, even though it was very sticky.  The directions indicated that it probably cause the mixer to walk.  Hah!  I had to hold it down, what with the ball of dough slapping and releasing from the sides of the bowl.

After the mixing/kneading stage, the dough is dumped into an oiled container for 1-1.5 hours until it doubles.  It is then treated to a series of stretch and folds in the container (I used a plastic bowl scraper for this exercise), then allowed to double again.  Having finished bulk fermentation, the dough is scraped out onto a floured counter, divided in two, and (very gently) shaped into rough, rectangular loaves that are placed on bran-strewn pieces of parchment paper for their final rise.  The risen loaves go onto stone in a preheated oven, with steam.  The initial temperature is 450 F, which is dropped to 400 F for the second part of the bake.  Oven-spring was good.  The crust color is a deep brown, but not the near-black color promised in the formula.

The finished bread looks like this:

Whole Wheat Genzano Country Bread

The crust is thin and crackly, although I expect it will soften because of the internal moisture.  The flavor is very good; closer to that of a yeasted bread than to a sourdough but with some complexity that isn't usually present in a straight dough.  There doesn't seem to be the bitterness that sometimes shows up in whole wheat breads.  The crumb is moderately open, though nothing like the big holes of a ciabatta.  That's not bad, since this will be used primarily for sandwiches.  The breads are relatively light in weight for their size, another indicator of an open crumb.  I'll have to get a crumb shot, later.

I will definitely make this again, although I may experiment with leaving out the yeast.  That should swing the flavor profile in a whole 'nother direction.  Before getting to that, though, I have my eye on a couple of different rye recipes from Local Breads.



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