The Fresh Loaf

News & Information for Amateur Bakers and Artisan Bread Enthusiasts


amateur's picture

Sourdough disappointment

August 7, 2011 - 2:16am -- amateur

I can see that sourdough requires a certain amount of chemistry, which may be why I'm not doing well at it (I've never studied chemistry).

I made another attempt at it. My starter is doing quite well. It's USING the starter that's a problem. I used someone's basic dough recipe off this site and let it rise overnight. When it had risen, it was almost liquid, so I added more flour to it and kneaded it vigorously. It turned into a pretty fair-looking round, which I then left to rise again.

Urchina's picture

Bland pizza dough -- what gives?

June 16, 2010 - 8:21pm -- Urchina

Tonight's dinner was homemade pizza. I put my regular dough recipe away in favor of trying an overnight, slow-fermented pizza dough. We ended up with a pizza dough that was crispy on the bottom, chewy and pillowy up top, but so unbelievably bland. This was even more surprising considering the long, cold ferentation (24 hours in the fridge). The recipe is as follows: 


20 oz KAF Bread flour

~ 2 cups water

4 t active dry yeast

2 T olive oil

3.5 t salt

ggmauro's picture

Anyone have expertise in production baking? I am a chef with little natural leavening baking experience. I can make a mean loaf with commercial yeast, but alas, cannot seem to get the the "old fashioned" thing down. I am determined to do what ever it takes to make the absolute most natural and best loaf in las vegas and in my restaurant. My main complaint is that the loafs are too heavy. If I try proofing them for longer they are lighter but become "over-proofed". i.e. extra heavy crust that is extremely hard and crunchy. Please let me know if any of you can lend me a hand in troubleshooting my production.

Thank you,


staceass's picture

Am I The Bread Baker's Flunkee?

June 17, 2008 - 12:44pm -- staceass

Greetings all, I've been struggling with several formulas from Peter Reinhart's "The Bread Baker's Apprentice" (or BBA, as I've seen several of you refer to it as). Everything I've tried so far has resulted in a VERY stiff dough that barely rises. Other recipes I've used from other sources seem to turn out wonderfully every time, so I'm pretty sure my ingredients (i.e. my yeast) and my technique is all right. Has any one else encountered such inexplicable failure?

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Glezer's Book or is it me--oven spring?

June 16, 2007 - 10:21pm -- danmerk

I am sitting here at 1:01am EST on a Saturday night tasting a piece of bread I just baked. The flavor is nice, but the bread is another dissapointment. The bread I made was the Kalmata Olive loaf in Glezer's book. However I replaced olives with sun dried tomatoes because I was out of olives. But that is not my problem-- I think my overall problem is oven spring. ALL my breads are flat.

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