Submitted by dmsnyder on August 27, 2008 - 9:56pm.

Encore des baguettes


Anis_baguettes_with_SD001

Anis_baguettes_with_SD001

Anis_baguettes_with_SD004

Anis_baguettes_with_SD004

Anis_baguettes_with_SD009

Anis_baguettes_with_SD009

Anis_baguettes_with_SD_Crumb

Anis_baguettes_with_SD_Crumb

Thesee baguettes are based on the formula given to Janedo by Anis Bouabsa, with Jane's modification - adding 100 gms of sourdough starter to the dough. The formula and method have been described in some detail in my last blog entry:

http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/8340/more-baguettes-best-crumb-yet-me

 If these look substantially similar to those pictured in that entry, they are. My point is that this formula appears to be reliable and is yielding consistant and gratifying results for me.

 That said, this batch was superior to the last in a some respects: First, the crumb is even more open. Second, the flavor is much better. It is very mildly sour but also sweeter. Third, the crumb has a chewier texture. Fourth, the shape of the cross section is more round. Fifth, my scoring was more consistant.

I did make a few modifications in ingredients and method. While these may seem trivial, I believe those of us who have participated in "The Great Baguette Quest" have found that these sorts of small differences make the difference between "good" and "great" results.

So, my modifications from the previous baguette bake were:

1. My starter was more fully activated when I mixed the dough.

2. I included the starter in addition to the flour and water to the initial mix that autolysed.

3. I got distracted and forgot to add the yeast and salt until the last set of stretch and folds. In other words, shortly before putting the dough in the refrigerator. The gluten tightened up dramatically and quickly after the salt was added, but it was pretty fully developed already. (This is not recommended, and I'm not sure what if any difference it made in the final product.) Because I wanted to be sure the yeast and salt were well distributed, I ended up doing more folds - probably 15-20 more, and this probably resulted in fuller gluten development which may have contributed to the open crumb.

4. Following foolishpoolish's lead, I rested the dough only about 30 minutes after dividing and pre-shaping, and I proofed for only 30 minutes. (Bouabsa rests 45 minutes and proofs for 60 minutes.)

I am not much of a baguette fan, generally speaking, but this batch was good enough to motivate further baguette adventures.

David


Submitted by dmsnyder on June 25, 2008 - 9:36pm.

Rustic Baguettes made with Nury's Light Rye Dough


Rustic Baguettes made with Nury Light Rye dough

Rustic Baguettes made with Nury Light Rye dough

Rustic Baguettes Crumb made with Nury Light Rye dough

Rustic Baguettes Crumb made with Nury Light Rye dough 

 

As promised, I made some baguettes using Nury's Light Rye dough from Daniel Leader's "Local Breads." I followed Leader's recipe except for using a couple tablespoons less water, thinking it might work better for baguettes. In hindsight, I don't think this improved the product.

For those not familiar with the recipe, it is documented in Zolablue's original posting of her baking of this bread.

 http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/5500/pierre-nury’s-rustic-light-rye-leader

This was an excellent thread. It led me to make this bread myself for the first time, and it remains one of my very favorites.

Leader's recipe calls for patting out the mass of fermented dough into a 10 x 10 inch rectangle, cutting it in half with a bench knife and gently transferring the cut pieces to floured parchment, then immediately baking it on a stone with steam. For these "baguettes," I simply sliced off 3 portions, about 2.5 cm wide each, and stretched them gently to 12 inches as I laid them on the parchment. I baked with steam at 500F for 10 minutes, then removed the skillet and loaf pan with the water and turned down the oven to 440F. The bake time was 17-20 minutes, total.

The baguettes are beautiful, in a very rustic way. The crust was very nicely crunchy, and the crumb was chewy. The taste was wonderful, as it always is with this recipe. The main difference between these baguettes and the "proper" Nury Light Rye is that the baguettes have proportionally much more crust, and the crust stays crisp rather than softening.

 My efforts to make traditional baguettes will continue, but this version is one I'll be making again. 

 

David 


Submitted by proth5 on June 20, 2008 - 4:02pm.

Goofus and Gallant

Anyone old enough to remember those guys?

Poor Goofus could never do anything right and Gallant - well, he was just annoying.

Anyway, I just pulled the weekly baguettes from the oven and they reminded me of those guys. In the spirit of learning/teaching I'd like to use poor Goofus to illustrate something.

I've posted a picture here:  http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii183/proth5/GoofusandGallant.jpg

I'm not going to do a detailed critique of the numerous, numerous flaws in these baguettes (nor am I really asking for comment other on the topic - I am my own worst critic), but I will focus on their shapes as pulled from the oven.

Gallant - the one on the top- of the picture has some nice symmetry and in general a pleasing shape.

Poor old Goofus has a slash that didn't open well and on the right (your right as you look at the picture) is somewhat scraggly and mis-shapen.  Before I put them in the oven I could have predicted that fate.  How?

My hands, my dough, but on Goofus, I failed to remove sufficient flour from the dough prior to shaping and to completely clear the bench of flour (residual from the loaf and just got a tiny bit sloppy with clearing the bench - it's hot - the oven is at 500F - oh, excuses, excuses...).  When I did the final shaping on Goofus, I had the "ball bearing" effect of the flour - the dough would not roll properly - it slid around on the bench.  I worked at it to get an even shape (This was the only difference in the shaping.  Consistency may be the bugaboo of little minds, but it is what I do best.)but all was lost.  Even though it looked even as I laid it on the couche, it was destined to have a flaw.  Same with the left side.  The extra flour caused an improper seal and you can see a distinct spiral.  It looked ok as dough, but it was destined to bake poorly.  I pulled myself together to shape Gallant.

To avoid having to be sent back to "the place" - I will admit that I did a few things right.  I particularly like Gallant's grigne - which are not seen to best advantage in this shot.

So big problems from little mistakes grow... It pays to pay attention to the details.

Happy Baking!


Submitted by dmsnyder on June 15, 2008 - 6:51pm.

San Francisco Sourdough variation Baguettes


SF Sourdough baguettes

SF Sourdough baguettes

SF Sourdough baguettes crumb

SF Sourdough baguettes crumb 

These baguettes were made with the same dough I have described in http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/7446/reinhart039s-san-francisco-sourdough-quotcrust-amp-crumbquot-some-new-variations.

I have been trying various formulas and techniques to make baguettes that have "classic" crust, crumb and taste. This is not them, of course, but I have also wanted to see if the pain de compagne dough, which has such a wonderful taste in a boule, would also make a good baguette. Well, the crumb structure and the taste are essentially identical to the boule. The baguette just has proportionately more crust.

The baguettes were scaled to about 10 oz. I preshaped them according to Hamelman's technique in "Bread," let them rest for 10-15 minutes, then formed the baguettes. I should have let them rest longer. The dough was very elastic. I attempted to be as gentle as possible in handling the dough. I proofed them for about 45-50 minutes only, until they were just swelled a bit, then baked with steam, starting at 500F and reducing the oven to 460F after 10 minutes. The total bake time was 25 minutes. They rested in the turned off oven with the door ajar for 10 minutes more.

 

The combination of the stingy proofing and the hot oven resulted in enormous oven spring. The bloom practically obliterated my cuts. For this "rustic" baguette, I'm not unhappy with the effect.

A word about how I steamed the oven: Hamelman's suggested method of oven steaming for the home baker was used. The oven was preheated with a pizza stone on the middle shelf and a loaf pan and a cast iron skillet on the bottom shelf. Just before spraying the loaves with water and scoring them, I placed about a cup of ice cubes in the loaf pan. Just after loading the loaves, I poured about a cup of boiling water into the skillet. The door was opened briefly at 10 minutes to remove the loaf pan and skillet. I did not spray water into the oven. 

David 


Submitted by foolishpoolish on June 15, 2008 - 3:16pm.

Sourdough Baguettes

Here's a recipe for an all natural yeast baguette with a dash of whole grain.  The recipe is inspired by the poolish baguette recipe in 'Bread Baker's Apprentice' and also by the white sourdough bread from the Bertinet bakery. 

FP Baguette 3

 

Apologies for the poor looking results but I hope you'll find the taste is worth it.  As you can see, my scoring, shaping and steam baking still require much improvement. I'm sure you'll find whatever method you normally use for shaping/scoring/steaming baguettes will yield more aesthetically pleasing results.

Hopefully you'll find this more flavourful than the average 'cardboard' baguette.  It has a nutty taste with a fantastic aroma reminiscent of good pain au levain minus the sour. The crumb is reasonably open (considering the 60% hydration) but the texture remains fairly 'fluffy' rather than chewy; a compromise of sorts

The 'pate fermentee' is simply left over dough from a previous batch made according to the same formula and hydration. After bulk ferment, some of the dough  was put into the refrigerator and left to slowly ferment for 2 days.

Additional note: I have made this recipe using 550g all purpose flour and no bread flour to give an even softer crumb.  With careful handling and a slightly longer proof, the crumb will remain just as open but may be trickier to score.

(makes 3 to 4 baguettes depending on how much dough you wish to reserve)

  • 150g white starter (100% hydration, 24 hour build)
  • 150g pate fermentee (60% hydration)  Add more if you like!
  • 300g all purpose flour (T55)
  • 250g bread flour  (T65)
  • 50g whole wheat flour (T110) or whole spelt
  • 330g water
  • 10g salt 

Mix the flour and water into a rough dough.  

Leave to autolyse for at least half an hour.

Mix in white starter, pate fermentee and salt in turn.

Leave for 10 to 15 minutes.

Knead/fold until at least a medium window pane.

Bulk ferment at room temperature for 5 hours (or until well over twice in bulk with visible gas bubbles)  

Stretch and fold (if only previously brought to medium windowpane) after one hour.

Set aside any dough you wish to refrigerate for use next time. 

Shape and proof in couche for additional hour.

Bake with steam at high temperature (use whatever method works best for you). 

 

Enjoy! 

 

--FP


Submitted by colinwhipple on November 18, 2007 - 3:20pm.

Sourdough Baguettes

 

Sourdough Baguettes

Sourdough Baguettes