The Fresh Loaf

News & Information for Amateur Bakers and Artisan Bread Enthusiasts


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Add salt to overnight autolyse?

March 12, 2011 - 11:05am -- scottsourdough

So I've read that sometimes people add salt to soakers to constrain certain enzyme activity. Here's a post that taks about a lot of those specifics: From what I understand, you would only want to add salt to a soaker if it contains flour, not just seeds.

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July 13, 2010 - 12:07pm -- qahtan


I expect most of you that have used my recipes have noticed that there is no salt in the engredients, this is because I always use salted butter. I never buy lard or margerine  or any other shortening... just incase you wondered about the salt... ;-)))

Oh I do add salt when I make bread,,,,,,,


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suzanne pepin

Ok, this is my first entry into my personal blog and hopefully not my last one (excuse my syntaxe as French is my first language...).

It has been a long journey into trials and errors, but I kept my passion for making the perfect sourdough bread and today, I believe I have achieved the beginning of the perfect sourdough loaf, for myself anyway.

So here it is... I follow these instructions from Susan from San diego, up to the 'T' without changing a thing.  Et voilà, my perfect sourdough bread is borned.

It was made with my homemade starter 'Bécacine', borned May 05 2010.  The smell of sourdough is very present and I am so pleased with the easiness of this method.  For baking, I used the method 'Roasting lid' because this method seems to work the best for my condition at the moment : living 6,000 feet above the sea level in high altitude, in central Mexico, and I have to make breads with what I have around me and not always run to the store, which is pratically, non-existant here. 

For the colander, I replaced it with a straw bowl for tortilla, well floured, and cover with a coton dish towel, it worked like a charm. I don't have a pizza stone so I used the back of my cast iron pot to deposit the bread to be on it.  It did the job also.

Now, my big problem was to understand the process because here, everything with yeast in it will raise very quickly but also go down very fast because of the altitude, some days are better than others...  So the manipulation of the dough had to be restricted to a minimum and had to be studied closely to know the right time to move it.

It has been a long journey since May 05.  This bread is my 13th bread.  All the others ended up in the field for the birds, the snakes, black widow, scorpions, fire ants, etc... around me.  I could have kept them for building a wall of brick actually.

So it shows that it is not only a recipe that makes the perfect dish, it is the 'knowing how to cook, bake' that makes the difference, the location we live also and the passion for it.

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Gearing up for Farmers Market and new commercial kitchen

March 9, 2010 - 5:44am -- Jon Morrison



I have been following the blogs for some time.  I am currently baking 6-8 loaves of sour dough bread a week, Pain au levain, San Francisco, PR Poulene 100% whole wheat (5-6 lb loaves) trying to get consistant results.  I have a few questions.


1. When increasing the size of the recipe, does the salt percentage remain the same?  I know that in other recipes it is reduced.


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This was originally posted on my blog Healthy living, you can see more images there but here is the run down of my day baking.

Bake n Blog February 9 2010 finish
As my bake day came to the close it was more of a disappointment than success this time. There were happy moments that shun through on small occasions but over all it was a bust. My spelt sourdough that I like to make did not turn out, the substitution of white flour with wheat made the dough wet and hard to work with, and when I free formed the bread it decided to run all over and became more of a large flat bread. The only good part of this bread story is that I got a proof cabinet and made wooden shelf for the proffer so non of my bread stuck to the shelves. When the bread baked the flavor was more sour than I would like, reading few blogs about baking I learned that the small amount of salt does not add much to the flavor so this time I skipped the salt on my breads, big no no, the small pinch of salt that we add to the dough actually makes a big difference in taste. The Pain au Levain turned out great except that I also held the salt back so it's not as flavorful but over all it is a good bread.

To Success.

This bake I decided to try and convert my beer pizza dough from using dry yeast to sourdough and it was a success. I hope to share about this in my next blog, I baked 4 pizzas including 1 with bananas and cinnamon, and we loved it.

Things I learned from the bake.

One main thing I have learned from this bake is that when you are trying a new bread or a changing your current recipe, do it to a single loaf of bread, not your whole mix.

Stick to what works, and what you know that you will like.

Use salt, although it's a small amount but does enhance the flavor tremendously.

Most of all don't get disappointed, you can always try again.

Till our next bake.


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Salt-stressed yeast increases rise?

October 4, 2009 - 11:03am -- leucadian

I just ran across this story about using yeast that has been exposed to a 7% salt solution for 40 minutes. Apparently the resulting bread is softer and faster rising. While this is desirable for commercial bakeries (faster, bigger, softer), it doesn't look like it's going to be a hit with the artisan baking community (maybe shift the retarding phase to the freezer??). But perhaps for those sugar laden pastries, or 100% whole wheat breads, it might be a useful technique.


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