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 Silesian Light Rye 1

Silesian Light Rye 1

Leader's "Local Bread" has three formulas for Polish ryes. I have made the Silesian Dark Rye once and the Polish Cottaqe Rye many times. Today, I made the Silesian Light Rye for the first time.


Leader describes these "glossy golden loaves" as having "a delicate rye flavor, a spongy crumb, and a thin, chewy crust." That about sums it up. This rye bread is the farthest you can get from a dense, super-sour, dark german rye. But then, it only has about 100 gms of light rye flour to 500 gms of bread flour. The chew and taste are light even compared to a French levain with a bit of rye flour in the dough. It is more like a (extraordinarily good) sandwich bread. The crust gets very soft, and it is thin yet chewy. The whole loaf feels light and spongy. 
 

I expect it will make lovely toast tomorrow morning to eat with my usual homemade almond butter and apricot jam or marmelade. I also think it would be great for a tuna or egg salad sandwich. I'd want a more substantial rye for corned beef, myself.


silesian Light Rye Crumb Silesian Light Rye Crumb

David

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Jewish pumpernickel is one of my favorite breads. I have made it only a couple times before, once from Greenstein's recipe in "Sectets of a Jewish Baker" and once from Reinhart's recipe in BBA. But I've never really followed Greenstein's recipe to the letter, because I've never had any stale rye bread with which to make altus.  Well, a few weeks ago, I put what was left of a loaf of Greenstein's Sour Rye bread in the freezer with which to make altus, and this weekend I made "real" Jewish Pumpernickel using altus, pumpernickel flour and first clear flour.

For those not in the know, altus is stale rye bread with the crust cut off, cut into cubes and soaked in water, then wrung out and incorporated into the dough of a new loaf of rye or pumpernickel. It is said to have a beneficial effect on the texture of the bread, and my experience certainly corroborates this.

 Greenstein uses cold water and lets the altus soak overnight. My schedule did not permit this so I used hot water, and it saturated the rye bread cubes in 10 minutes. Wringing it out only resulted in first degree burns.

 Greenstein's Pumpernickel

Greenstein's Pumpernickel

I'm not uploading a "crumb shot." The crumb was very handsome, but it was the texture that was remarkable. It was a bit chewy but with a "creamy" mouth feel. It was simply the best pumpernickel of this type I have every had the pleasure of eating.

My idea of a good time is a slice of this bread, smeared with cream cheese and eaten with eggs scrambled in slightly browned butter. It's pretty darn good with a slice of lox, too.

 Anyone into baking Jewish rye breads who hasn't made Greenstein's Pumpernickel using the ingredients he specifies is missing a real treat!

David

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Jeff Hertzberg's Deli-Style Rye

January 25, 2008 - 6:48pm -- Floydm

Jeff Hertzberg, the co-author of Artisan Bread in Five Minutes a Day writes in his introduction that the quest for an authentic deli-style rye bread like what he grew up eating was what started his obsession with bread baking. The result is an extremely tasty rye bread that even the most inexperienced baker ought to be able to bake successfully.

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Auburn Rye Bread - Cleveland in the '50's

January 15, 2008 - 8:02am -- Monica
Forums: 

Can anywone help me find a recipe for "Auburn Rye Bread?" Explainaton: Growing up in Cleveland my Mom whould come home from Eastern Market, and...a special stop at the Auburn Bakery for their signature rye. Before the groceries were unloaded us 5 kids ate the bread. It was a light rye, light to medium texture, round loaf, with a delicious flavor that has haunted me. Would anyone out there be able to help me find THIS recipe or one like it. All the rye I try are to heavey. Thanks. M

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Baking rye breads under a cloche

January 10, 2008 - 9:11pm -- fleur-de-liz

I love the results of baking bread under a cloche, but have used the cloche mostly with white and whole wheat based breads. Has anyone baked rye breads 'en cloche' or any other type of enclosed top baker? Were the breads better than baking directly on a stone with steam?

I assume that a cloche would be as effective with rye breads as with wheat, but would love to hear about your direct experiences as I am envisioning a rye bread baking weekend coming up!

Thanks so much,

Liz

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HarryGermany Rye Bread, Part II, This time for beginners

December 4, 2007 - 12:09pm -- CountryBoy

Let's experiment.  Let's just let novices repond to this thread.  So if you are 2 yrs. or under in experience I invite you to respond.  If you are more experienced, like 95% of the members here, feel free to move on to other threads and share your expertise elsewhere.

 Ramona, are you out there???  I did it again; I made another loaf and just took it out of the oven.  Looks fine to me.  This time I folded rather than left it as Harry suggested for the 2 hour wait time.  All came out fine.

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Rising Problem with Harry Germany's Rye Bread

November 29, 2007 - 5:37pm -- CountryBoy

 I have made the following Rye Bread recipe and this is my third try.  However I have trouble with the rising of the dough when I put it in my loaf pan.  It rises but flows over the pan as if it does not have enough strength in the dough.

Now I know with rye that I am not dealing with gluten as much as starch.  And that I should keep the dough wet and sticky and not load it up with flour. 

I am following the ingredients exactly. I have a scale and am doing everything pretty precisely.  Why doesn't the dough rise up versus overflow the plan.

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Rose L. Beranbaum Rye Bread

November 1, 2007 - 12:50pm -- CountryBoy

I have a problem and would like advice that anyone could provide.  My rye bread is waxy rather than light and chewy.  Do you know what I mean?  I have tried this recipe 4 times and I am not improving.  Could you advise?  Please note that she expressly suggests Bread flour for this recipe.

The following is the recipe I am following.  I quote it in full so you will know my process for this.


Basic Rye Bread-This Yields 3 Loaves…

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Leader's Polish Cottage Rye

October 14, 2007 - 12:13pm -- dmsnyder

Yesterday, I baked the Polish Cottage Rye from Daniel Leader's "Local Breads." It is, as described, a very wet dough. Forming the boule was more like folding and pinching seams than my usual rotating and tucking procedure. In any case, the resulting bread was pretty. It was delicious 3 hours out of the oven - very moist and tender with distinct sweet and sour overtones. This morning, toasted with butter and apple butter, the rye flavor was more prominant.

 

David

 

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