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Submitted by Windischgirl on May 6, 2008 - 5:22am. controlling overproofingI'm beginning to think my yeast is on steroids... Given my hectic schedule, what with work and home and hubby and 3 kids going at least 4 different places, I have often stowed dough in the fridge to buy some time...as well as develop the flavors. However, I've noticed a pattern that I haven't seen discussed on the forums yet: If I put the dough in the fridge before first fermentation (knead it and fridge it), I get very little rise in the fridge. But if any rise has happened at room temp and then I fridge it, either during first fermentation or proofing, I get overdevelopment...by the time the dough has come to room temp again, it's huge and I might as well degas ( the action, not the artist!) and shape from scratch, otherwise it's impossible to slash and I get almost no oven rise. Doesn't matter if it's yeast, or yeast-starter combo. I do the combo because my starter, altho bubbly and tasty, has never really risen...and I seldom have the extended stretches of time to let a straight starter do it's thing...but this will be another posting. So...is it my fridge? (Which has been having it's quirks now, as well!) I store the dough on the bottom shelf--it's a bottom-freezer version--which is coolest. Am I using too much yeast/starter? If straight dough, yeast is typically 2 tsp for a 1 1/2 to 2 lb loaf; if yeast-starter, I use 1 tsp yeast and about 25-30% starter for the same size loaf (about 4-5 c flour). I am basing the starter percents on The Metropolitan Bakery Book (Metro. is a Philly-based artisan bakery) which suggested using 30-40% starter for max flavor and keeping quality. And since I had a bathtub full of the stuff... Are there other issues I should be aware of? Should I work on my organizational skills, developing a schedule for proofing, retarding, etc? In my earlier life, I was scheduled rigidly, but having been knocked around by life and being married to Mr. Spontaneity, I've lost that ability ;-). The thought of reverting to a schedule makes me cringe, but if I have to for the sake of good bread...! Windi Submitted by sadears on December 30, 2007 - 12:10pm. Retarding bagelsWhy do you have to retard the bagels overnight? I don't have room in my fridge to store a tray of bagels. Steph Submitted by aladenzo on October 2, 2007 - 4:17am. Retarding half of dough during Make-UpHi there... don't really know which topic to put this under... hope anyone out there could help.... Submitted by fleur-de-liz on May 17, 2007 - 5:15pm. When do you retard your dough?Is it best to retard the dough overnight in the refrigerator after bulk fermentation or after the final shaping? I have seen both methods mentioned in various recipes. For most sourdough breads, I prefer the taste after an overnight slow fermention in the refrigerator. I also prefer the timetable of an overnight slow ferment. Would appreciate your advice. Thanks, Liz |
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