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Submitted by Kuret on November 9, 2008 - 4:52am Weekend bake, Sunflower Seed rye and light rye rolls.This is what I pulled out of my oven today, a good 2kg of dough worth. First a small batch of light rye rolls made somewhat according to the instructions for making sourdough italian bread that was posted here earlier by Dmsnyder i think. The formula does only call for white flour but as I live in sweden I find that breads should contain at least a small portion of rye! I made the dough with 20% rye flour wich gives you a dough that handles exactly like a wheat dough but with greater taste and also a somewhat drier feel, due to the high ash content of my whole grain rye flour, I also topped them with a mixture of wheat bran and rolled oats so they resemble the kind of "fake healthy" bread you can buy in stores and bakeries here in sweden.
The other breads were two sunflower ryes as per BBA, made with 30%rye starter and really coarse rye meal for the rye content in the dough. Lightly toasted sunflower seeds make for a lovely taste, can´t wait to open these babies! I have started tt get a bit better at shaping since I studied Marks videos, that technique is far superior to my prevoius attempts. Now I only have to make room for the loaves in my freezer! '
Submitted by dmsnyder on September 26, 2008 - 4:58pm Sourdough Italian Bread
Sourdough Italian Bread
Sourdough Italian Bread crumb This bread is based on the Italian Bread formula in Peter Reinhart's "Bread Baker's Apprentice." The only change I made was to substitute a biga naturale (sourdough starter) for the biga made with instant yeast in Reinhart's formula. I still added the instant yeast to the final dough. I also employed the "stretch and knead in the bowl" technique during bulk fermentation, even though I used a KitchenAid mixer for mixing beforehand. Intermediate starter (Biga naturale) 3 oz. Active starter 9 oz. Water 12 oz. KAF Bread flour
Final Dough 18 oz. Biga naturale (Note: save the remaining 6 oz. for another bread.) 11.25 oz. KAF Bread flour o.41 oz. (1-2/3 tsp) Salt 0.5 oz. (1 T) Sugar 0.11 oz (1 tsp) Instant yeast 0.17 oz. (1 tsp) Diastatic barley malt powder 0.5 oz (1 T) olive oil 7 oz (¾ cup) Water at 80F Sesame seeds for coating. Semolina to dust the parchment paper.
Mix and ferment the biga. Mix the biga naturale the evening before baking. Dissolve the starter in the water in a medium sized bowl, then add the flour and mix thoroughly to hydrate the flour and distribute the starter. Cover the bowl tightly and allow to ferment for 3-6 hours, until it doubles in volume. Refrigerate overnight. The next day, remove the biga from the refrigerator and allow it to warm up for an hour or so.
Mix the dough Mix the flour, salt, sugar, yeast and malt powder in a large bowl or the bowl of your mixer. Add the biga in pieces, olive oil and ¾ cups of tepid water and mix thoroughly. Adjust the dough consistency by adding small amounts of water or flour as necessary. The dough should be very slack at this point. I mixed the dough with the dough hook in the KA mixer for 10 minutes then transferred it to an 8 cup/2 liter glass pitcher that had been lightly oiled.
Fermentation I stretched and folded the dough in the pitcher with a rubber spatula then covered it tightly. I repeated the stretch and fold again 20 and 40 minutes later. I then left the dough to ferment until it was double the original volume. This took about 60 minutes. (Approximately 2 hours total bulk fermentation.)
Divide and form Divide into 2 pieces and pre-form as logs. Allow the dough to rest 5 minutes or more, then form into bâtards. If desired, spray or brush the loaves with water and sprinkle with sesame seeds. Prepare a couche – either a floured piece of baker's linen or parchment paper sprinkled with semolina. Pre-heat the oven to 500F with a baking stone on the middle shelf. Make preparations for steaming the oven. Place the loaves in the couche, cover with plastic or a towel and allow to proof until 1-1/2 times their original size.
Baking Score the loaves and transfer them to the baking stone. Bake with steam, using your favorite method. After loading the loaves and steaming, turn the over down to 450F and bake until done (about 20 minutes). If you want a thicker crust, use a lower temperature and bake for longer.
Cooling Allow to cool before slicing, if you can. Enjoy! David Submitted by ehanner on September 18, 2008 - 9:22pm My New Daily Bread
Last night I made a double batch of Peter Reinhart's Italian Bread with Biga. I think I did a review of this bread a short time ago so I won't bother with the formula now. My daughter told me I had to make this bread every day from now on. She was quite emphatic so I'll have to put it on the short list. This Italian has such a nice flavor it takes you by surprise. I must say the after taste is my favorite in this style. So what does one do with 4 loaves of delicious Italian bread? Make Bruchetta!! The tomatoes are ripe and plentiful now and all the herbs are in full swing so the time is right for a big batch. I discovered a new (for me) Balsamic vinegar made from figs the other day. I decided to try that instead of the usual dark and heavy variety I otherwise use. The result was a slightly sweet yet tart dressing that we all loved. A few Months ago JMonkey turned me on to a great soup cookbook by Sally Sampson called Souped Up. He said at the time he thought it was the best in the genre and I have to agree. The White Bean with Basil above was delicious as has been everything I have tried in the book. I have tried maybe a dozen out of 100 very nice recipes. It's on Amazon and inexpensive. I have given 4 copies away so far to family members. I baked these on a sheet pan without a stone from just barely up to temp. I forgot to turn the heat down for a while so the tops got a little too brown first but they are still fine. Eric
Submitted by dmsnyder on August 30, 2008 - 10:01pm Pane di Genzano
Pane di Genzano (the real thing)
Pane di Genzano
Pane di Genzano Crumb In "Local Breads," Daniel Leader has 3 breads from Genzano, a village just outside Rome. Well, 2 breads and a pizza. The 2 breads are an all-white bread (Pane casareccio di Genzano) and one that uses half bread flour and half whole wheat (Pane lariano). Zolablue had written about these breads some time ago. (http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/4417/genzano-country-bread-local-breads ) Hers were gorgeous and sounded delicious. But the recipe spooked me at the time. It is a huge loaf and a super-wet dough. Since then, I had gained some experience with slack doughs and felt up to trying one of the pane di Genzanos.
I'm not quite sure what to call the bread I made because I "split the difference" between the breads in the book. I used 25% whole wheat. I also did not follow Leader's instructions for mixing. I wanted to try the Hamelman folding technique on this bread, since I was so happy with how it had worked with my baguettes. I also wanted to try the "double hydration" technique recommended by Suas in "Advanced Bread and Pastry" for improved gluten development in slack doughs. Formula (I used my regular 75% hydration sourdough starter which is fed with 70% AP, 20% WW and 10% Rye for the biga). Biga Naturale 368 gms Water 405 gms Bread Flour 375 gms WW Flour 125 gms Instant yeast 7 gms Sea salt 14 gms Unprocessed bran for sprinkling Mixing In the bowl of my KitchenAid mixer, I mixed 300 gms of water with the biga, then added the flours, yeast and salt and mixed with a rubber spatula until the ingredients were all incorporated in a shaggy mass. I then mixed with the dough hook at Speed 4, with occasional bursts to Speed 6, for about 12-14 minutes. At this point, I had some gluten development, and the dough was clearing the sides of the bowl at Speed 4. I began slowly adding the remaining 100 gms of water, probably about 10-15 gms at a time, waiting for each addition to get incorporated before adding the next. I continued to mix at the same speed for another 10 minutes or so. (Note: Leader's mixing instructions are to put all the ingredients in the bowl and stir together. Then mix at Speed 8 for 10 minutes or so, then at Speed 10 for another 10 minutes.) Fermentation I then transferred the dough to a 4 quart glass measuring pitcher. I had planned on fermenting the dough for 3 hours, doing stretch and folds after 60 and 120 minutes. The dough was overflowing the pitcher after 60 minutes. I transferred it to a 6 quart bowl, did my stretch and folds and covered the bowl. After 120 minutes, the dough had re-doubled and was extremely soft and puffy. The gluten was better developed. I did another series of stretches and folds and fermented another hour. The dough was still extremely sticky. I scraped it onto a large wooden cutting board and attempted to form it. I could fold the edges, but the dough was sticking a lot to the board, my bench knife. I kept my hands wet, which prevented it sticking to me very much. Proofing I then transferred the dough to a large banneton, dusted with AP and rice flour, then with bran. This was not a pretty sight. The dough was dough but it was so slack, it could not be called a "ball." It was my own proprietary loaf shape. I called in a "glob." The surface was coated with more bran. The banneton was covered with plastic wrap. I pre-heated the oven to 450F with a cast iron skillit and a metal loaf pan on the bottom shelf and a large pizza stone on the middle shelf. I proofed the glob for 55 minutes. (Leader says to proof for 1-1/2 to 2 hours. I was afraid I would get no oven spring if I proofed it that long.)
Baking Just before loading the loaf, I put a handful of ice cubes in the heated loaf pan to humidify the oven. I transferred the glob from the banneton to a peel, covered with parchment paper dusted with more bran. The glob hit the parchment, spread, but did not overflow the (large pizza) peel. I transferred the glob, which had assumed a somewhat pleasing ovoid shape on hitting the peel, to the stone. I poured about a cup of boiling water into the skillet and closed the oven door. After 18 minutes, I removed the loaf pan and the skillet from the oven. After 30 minutes, I turned the oven down to 400 degrees and baked for 30 minutes more. Cooling I transferred the bread to a cooling rack. Leader says to cool it for 2 hours before slicing. Comments Well, you win some and you loose some. This bread is delicious. The crust is crunchy. The crumb is tender. You might have noticed that the biga naturale is 74% of the flour weight. The taste is quite sour, especially for a bread with a short fermentation for a sourdough. The whole wheat flavor is there and pleasing. I expect the flavors to change by tomorrow, probably for the better. On the other hand, I'm not sure my deviations from Leader's instructions worked well. The dough was probably gloppier than it is supposed to be. I don't think I got the gluten development it needs. I didn't get much oven spring, and the bread is rather flat. Zolablue got a wonderful boule. Note that she used high gluten flour, and that probably helped. I've got to keep trying, because this bread is really worth the effort. Note: It has been noted that this bread is messy to cut. That is an understatement. The bran flies everywhere! I think I ended up with more bran on the counter and cutting board than I had sprinkled on the loaf and in the banneton, and the bread seemed to still have as much as before. The normal laws of physics apparently do not apply to this bread. My advice: Slice it where clean up will be easiest. This bread is known in Italy for its keeping quality. It is good when first cooled and stays moist for many days. There are many references to this bread on Italian travel web sites. It is said to make wonderful brushcetta. I have a good supply of delicious tomatoes at the moment. I plan on testing that claim.
David Submitted by ehanner on August 30, 2008 - 3:52pm PR's Italian with Biga
This is my favorite Italian bread formula so far. I have been making this for the last two years ago when ever I need a gift for a lunch or my in-laws who love it. When I started making this mix with the biga, I began to understand how much the 12-14 hour pre ferment time helps the depth of flavor. The recipe is straight out of th BBA under yeasted breads with a Biga. I adjusted the amounts so I end up with 2 - 1-1/2 Lb loaves after baking. Mr. Reinhart's formula is for 2 - 1 Lb loaves in the book but we like the billowy sandwich size that I can bake on the stone or sheet pan. Two of these is all I can get in my oven. Yesterday I made a 7.4 Lb batch that was double the size of todays and produced 4 similar loaves. Todays mix was done by hand, no mixer needed. I started at 9PM last evening by mixing the Biga. I have learned from reading BBA that I need to consider a few things before I start. First, do I have 14 hours before I can mix the final dough? Second, what is the ambient temperature where the Biga will ferment? Knowing those two things will tell me how much yeast to use to get the best flavor. In this case, it is a warm day, the air isn't on and I think the 14 hours will stay at around 74-76 F. I decide to use 1 teaspoon of IDY yeast in 478 grams of flour and 340 grams water at room temp. I mix and make sure the biga is well blended before covering with a plastic bag. This morning at 11AM I mixed all the dry ingredients, biga and milk and oil in a large bowl with a plastic scraper. Once it was barely combined I covered and let it set for 30 minutes to let the liquid absorb. The dough was sticky and slack and I kneaded and folded for a few minutes and let it ferment for an additional 2 hours. During the ferment time I usually fold twice and gently reform as in Marks latest video. That's a great technique to use that helps the dough become a ball without kneading. Anyway, It doubles in 1-1/2 to 2 hours at which time I divide and shape into a log, place in a banneton for 30-40 minutes. I turn the oven on for this bake when the dough is divided, pre heated to 450F. When the dough is poofy and looks ready, not over 45 minutes, I turn it out on a wood loading peel covered in cornmeal. Spray with water, top with sesame seeds (pat them lightly so they stick), slash and into the oven. Steam as usual and lower the heat to 400F for 25 minutes. I was starting at 500 and lowering to 440 or so as PR suggested but I like the color better at the lower temp. It takes a few minutes longer but for me it looks like Italian. Here is the recipe sized for 2.5 Lbs of dough. There are many detailed instructions that you can find in the book but if you want to try it this will work. This is one of my favorite yeasted breads. Sorry about the text formatting. Hope this looks OK.--Enjoy!
Italian Bread-P. Reinhart Makes 2.5 Pounds of dough Biga 3-1/2 C 18 Oz 510g 318 g flour-226 g water 1/2 teaspoon Instant yeast.
Dough AP Flour 2-1/2 C 11.25 Oz 319g Salt 1-2/3 t .41 12g Sugar 1 T .5 Oz 14g Instant Yeast 1 t .11Oz 3g Diastatic Malt 1 t .17 5g Olive Oil 1 T .5 Oz 14g Warm Milk ¾ C plus 2T 7-8 Oz 227g Cornmeal for dusting TOTAL 1138g (2.5 Lb) Method: Mix dry ingredients together in bowl. Add biga in small pieces, olive oil and ¾ Cup warm milk, mix. Adjust water/flour as needed and rest 15 min. Knead until starting to develop. Dough temp should be 77-81 F. Transfer to oiled bowl, cover and ferment 2 hours or double. Fold every 45 minutes during ferment. Watch for double in volume. Divide in 2. Shape into logs. Gentle handling. Light dusting of flour and rest 5 minutes. Finish shaping. Lightly spray oil and cover, proof for 1 hour or 1.5 increase in volume. Preheat to 450 F. Score, Steam and lower oven temp to 400 after 2 steams. (400 and longer for crustier). 25 minutes for loaves, 15 minutes for rolls.
Submitted by MommaT on August 27, 2008 - 1:08pm Genzano Country Bread: Leader's "Local Breads"Well, after my last experience with the flat whole wheat struan(s), I decided to take a momentary break from whole grains and build my confidence back up by trying something completely different. I've always had good luck with Leader's breads and so borrowed "Local Breads" from the library. Am I glad I did! I used some of my existing bubbling chef (Leader's recipe from Bread Alone) to create the biga naturalle used in the Genzano Country Bread recipe. Not only did the fermentation take off beautifully, but the loaf is my best to-date. If ONLY I had my digital camera! I would love to send a picture. I didn't realise you were supposed to score the loaf (didn't hunt for the picture until AFTER it came out of the oven), but other than that, it looked nearly identical to the picture in local breads (sans scoring) and the crumb was almost as open as the Panmarino picture at the beginning of that section of pictures. I made this without a mixer, kneading by hand using the french fold method (much to the consternation of my husband who was trying to sleep in right above the kitchen) for nearly 20 minutes to get the windowpane. The first rising seemed a little sluggish, but Boston has had some cool nights and the kitchen was pretty cold. The second rising and proofing, however, went 'by the book'. If the proof is in the eating, my two boys are firm supporters of the moist, chewy texture and mild, wheaty flavor. The 2 year old is even eating every bit of the crust...now THAT's something. I can't wait to make this one again! Momma T Submitted by BoiseBob on April 6, 2008 - 8:20pm Cold Fermented Italian BreadI have been having a lot of fun with this recipe. I think I'll keep it; It's that good. Cold Fermented Italian Bread
Some notes: Try this: Using a standard mix - no herbs added to the dough - I am making 1 batch, 2 loaves, through the initial mixing stage. I am then dividing the dough in half, placing in a plastic covered plastic bowl and refrigerating the dough until needed, minimum of 16 hours. Use 1 batch at a time. Here is a link to a printable copy of the recipe: http://www.rockinrs.com/Living%20Cookbook/ItalianBread.htm Submitted by dvigs24 on March 23, 2008 - 10:09am Italian Bread and The Bread Baker's ApprenticeBefore I ever baked a loaf of bread, I read Bread Baker's Apprentice from cover to cover. It definitely provided me a great base of knowledge with which to begin my bread baking, but after a few months and much reading on this site, and many loaves of bread, I think there are 2 main issues that might throw off the beginner trying to make lean breads. First is the description of the dough textures, just what does "tacky but not sticky" mean? It's too subjective and I think that despite the occasional warnings, the beginner's urge to add too much flour to make a dough that is easy to handle will somewhat sabotage their crumb. Second, and related to the first point, there needs to be a bit more emphasis placed on the fact that doughs with hydrations in the higher end of the range given for the recipes yield much better results. I guess everybody figures this out through trial and error, but I was a bit disappointed with my first loaves and couldn't figure out why the recipe didn't produce breads with crumbs like the ones in the picture. I guess the lesson is stick with it, get more info, and experiment. Has anybody here had similar experiences? I tackled the Italian Bread recipe from BBA again today making some modifications of my own. Making sure to include the maximum amount of water, and adding 2 stretch and fold maneuvers to the fermentation in order to help develop the gluten and make the dough easier to handle. The results were spectacular. Some of the best Italian bread I've ever eaten (and for somebody who grew up around New Haven, CT, where there is an Italian bakery every 7 feet, that's saying something). A nice chewy crust, and a moist, tender crumb that is out of this world. -Darron from The Teacher Learns to Cook
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